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    Hehe,I'm sorry.

    I know what you mean,I've owned Dan Wesson,Smith,Colt,Taurus (the good early ones) and Ruger revolvers and Smith,Auto Ordnance (oops),Sig,Colt,SA,HK,Beretta autos,and probably something else I forgot.The only bad one was one of the SA 1911s,even the AO worked but I upgraded to an SA a few months later.I remember when I picked up my Beretta everyone was freaking over the slide failures,it was just a bad batch of slides,nothing more.Then locking blocks break,so buy a spare since you know it may happen later.It's a good gun and won't part with it,but now I've pretty much weeded down to Colt and HK.I would have no problem straying from them on another purchase,but life has curbed my finances for guns compared to a decade ago.I really need another bigbore revolver though,at the moment I don't have any revolvers.

    If I had no choice but to use a Glock I would,I can shoot them well.I don't hate them,just really don't like them or the company itself.Similar to GM,I've owned them and drive one now because I got it for basically nothing,but it's about the last brand I consider when I'm shopping for wheels and I have to get it very cheap.Like giving $100 for a new Glock.Different strokes for different folks and all.

    Later man,we're off topic really.

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    H&K made the first polymer gun.

    Why has Glock not been more innovative someone asked? Why change a good thing?

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    As for a SD carry gun, the Glock is right up there at the top of the heap with a few others. Their beauty lies in their simplicity and thus nearly utter reliability. And that, my friends, is what a carry gun is all about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by onalandline View Post
    Why has Glock not been more innovative someone asked? Why change a good thing?

    S&W with the M&P9 and Ruger with the SR9 seem to have innovated the design for the better. These two both are superior to the glock in the ergonomic and looks department. They both come from the USA.

    here is a link comparing all three of these guns.

    Handgun Database - Compare Handguns

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    I own Glocks (2) now and S&W M&P's (3) and XDm's (2).

    I like them all

    But I do not believe that Glock have kept pace with the marketplace.

    Here's what I mean:

    Poor Grip angle
    Decent back strap system
    Has plastic sights - needs Metal sights - adjustable
    Decent slide serrations/grippiness.
    Full ambidextrous
    Removable back straps. (not til Gen 4)
    Grip angle. (oh I said that )
    Texturing that doesn't rip skin off
    Stainless steel slide
    Grip Safety
    Loaded chamber indicator or hole
    Cocked striker indicator
    Stainless steel sub-chassis
    Beefed up spring box (what Glock calls a guide ring)
    Robust MIM extractor
    Frame rails incorporated into the steel sear housing & locking blocks
    Frame's "beaver-tail"
    Revolver-like trigger shape
    Second spring in the striker assembly (striker return spring, like is used in the 99 series)
    Stainless steel guide rod
    Replaceable grip inserts that allow adjustment of both the backstrap and the palm swell dimension

    Now I wouldn't want all of those - but some are very nice indeed.

    Glock USA told Glock Austria YEARS ago (when the Walther P99 came out, and the HK P2000) this should be upgraded on the Glocks as soon as they could.

    Glock Austria insisted they knew better, i.e what we make is perfect.

    They have now lost enough $$$$ over the M&P and XDm & other polymer guns which had these features suddenly the Glock Perfection became Glock Perfection version 4.0.

    Glock Perfection version 4.0 solved very few of the problems.

    I own 2 Glocks, and have for a dozen years.

    Doesn't mean the company always knows what it's doing.

    IMHO M&P and XDm surpassed them because it gave customers what they wanted in a reliable package without costing $700.

    Just my opinion.


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    Quote Originally Posted by dondavis3 View Post
    I own Glocks (2) now and S&W M&P's (3) and XDm's (2).

    I like them all

    But I do not believe that Glock have kept pace with the marketplace.

    Here's what I mean:

    Poor Grip angle
    Decent back strap system
    Has plastic sights - needs Metal sights - adjustable
    Decent slide serrations/grippiness.
    Full ambidextrous
    Removable back straps. (not til Gen 4)
    Grip angle. (oh I said that )
    Texturing that doesn't rip skin off
    Stainless steel slide
    Grip Safety
    Loaded chamber indicator or hole
    Cocked striker indicator
    Stainless steel sub-chassis
    Beefed up spring box (what Glock calls a guide ring)
    Robust MIM extractor
    Frame rails incorporated into the steel sear housing & locking blocks
    Frame's "beaver-tail"
    Revolver-like trigger shape
    Second spring in the striker assembly (striker return spring, like is used in the 99 series)
    Stainless steel guide rod
    Replaceable grip inserts that allow adjustment of both the backstrap and the palm swell dimension

    Now I wouldn't want all of those - but some are very nice indeed.

    Glock USA told Glock Austria YEARS ago (when the Walther P99 came out, and the HK P2000) this should be upgraded on the Glocks as soon as they could.

    Glock Austria insisted they knew better, i.e what we make is perfect.

    They have now lost enough $$$$ over the M&P and XDm & other polymer guns which had these features suddenly the Glock Perfection became Glock Perfection version 4.0.

    Glock Perfection version 4.0 solved very few of the problems.

    I own 2 Glocks, and have for a dozen years.

    Doesn't mean the company always knows what it's doing.

    IMHO M&P and XDm surpassed them because it gave customers what they wanted in a reliable package without costing $700.

    Just my opinion.

    Glock does have a loaded chamber indicator and it is a lot better than the M&P. Also, Glock has a cocked striker indicator.... it's called the trigger. When it is in its forward position, the striker is in its partially cocked condition.

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    I'll throw a little wood on the fire. Caracal F and Caracal C. I want to try one of these badly. So far by all accounts it is a big win. If it is as good as it appears to be and if marketing and production can keep up with demand at a currently very reasonable price point this could put a dent in all of them. I know that is a lot of if's. I still want one and if I can't shake the desire will soon have one for T&E.

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    Poor Grip angle
    Decent back strap system
    Has plastic sights - needs Metal sights - adjustable
    Decent slide serrations/grippiness.
    Full ambidextrous
    Removable back straps. (not til Gen 4)
    Grip angle. (oh I said that )
    Texturing that doesn't rip skin off
    Stainless steel slide
    Grip Safety
    Loaded chamber indicator or hole
    Cocked striker indicator
    Stainless steel sub-chassis
    Beefed up spring box (what Glock calls a guide ring)
    Robust MIM extractor
    Frame rails incorporated into the steel sear housing & locking blocks
    Frame's "beaver-tail"
    Revolver-like trigger shape
    Second spring in the striker assembly (striker return spring, like is used in the 99 series)
    Stainless steel guide rod
    Replaceable grip inserts that allow adjustment of both the backstrap and the palm swell dimension
    Of your list I can only see one real issue and that is the beaver tail, even that is a personal choice. The rest of it is superfluous.

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    I went to my local range and rented a Glock 26 and I loved it! All I have to say is I'm sold!

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    How could a Glock be any good?
    You can't have its frame color-case-hardened.

    And think about how silly a Glock would look, shoved into your barbecue rig.


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    I own only one Glock. It's a 21C. Nice thing about Glocks, if they get scratched, it's not a big deal. It just adds character.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Map9690 View Post
    Is there anything else to say? Let me know how you guys feel about glocks.
    Seriously? You're not even going to try to be subtle about it?
    You can't even do us the common courtesy of posing as a legit question?


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    I have owned 2 Berreta 92FS's in the past and loved them. I now own a Kimber .45, a Sig Sauer M-11, a Smith and Wesson .357 magnum revolver. I never shot a Glock or never cared much for them as they are ugly and I was not a fan of the DA only trigger pull. I was looking for a reliable carry pistol with some nuts. I bought a Glock 30 and like it a lot. It does not feel as good as the Sig, but it sure pumps out the rounds with no issues. The trigger pull is easy to get used to.

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    Why a glock is better then other guns

    Personally, I don't care how good GLOCK is. I have always liked things that weren't known to the masses. I heard a guy say he was gonna get a GLOCK, but didn't know what a striker fired weapon was, didn't know the difference between JHP & FMJ, or that .38 was about the same size as 9mm. But he knew he wanted a GLOCK! Made me SO HAPPY he didn't have any clue about my gun...an FNH FNX-9. Made me proud, actually, to own a gun that is truly wonderful but not a synonymous term for "gangster video weapon".
    Not to take anything away from GLOCK, I'm sure they are great...I just never want to own one. Or a Camaro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by denner View Post
    Glock is better than many guns, so are: H&K, Sig, CZ, Beretta, Kahr, Ed brown, Colt, M&P, XDM, Walther, etc........They are all better than a Highpoint, but when you group all the better ones together it's purely a matter of subjective personal preference.


    I agree with this

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    Glocks are the best because I'm a noob and that's the only handgun I've shot or owned :| it's all relative

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    You probably won't find a negative opinion on Glocks if you post in the Glock section of the forum. Are you just looking for a warm, fuzzy feeling because you perhaps own a Glock? Ask your question in the Sig or Ruger or Beretta sections and see what you get for answers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acepilot View Post
    You probably won't find a negative opinion on Glocks if you post in the Glock section of the forum. Are you just looking for a warm, fuzzy feeling because you perhaps own a Glock? Ask your question in the Sig or Ruger or Beretta sections and see what you get for answers.
    Why? Just so it can be moved to the Glock forum?

    We don't have many members that stick to on section of the forum.


    When it comes to Glocks it usually tends to be a love or hate relationship.

    Personally I'm king of lukewarm on them but I can see why so many like them.

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    My only glock, mod 19 I've had about one year and it has been shot a lot.It ain't pretty like my others but it functions well and puts bullets on the target and it is not any better than the others but I will keep it, at least for now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VAMarine View Post
    Why? Just so it can be moved to the Glock forum?

    We don't have many members that stick to on section of the forum.


    When it comes to Glocks it usually tends to be a love or hate relationship.

    Personally I'm king of lukewarm on them but I can see why so many like them.
    That's what I was getting at. Most people who frequent the Glock section are probably Glock owners or at least Glock lovers. Most would then say they are the best thing since sliced bread.

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    The only safety is on the trigger, what could possibly go wrong?

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    Nice thing about a Glock, is that when it's time to be cleaned, just stick it in the ole dishwasher.

    Just be sure to put the dishwasher on pot scrubber mode.

    And, don't forget the Jet Dry.

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    ...And if you need spare parts, just phone Mattel.

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    Steve, all Glock mags drop free from the guns now.

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    I won't say that the Glock is better than all other pistols but I will say that it MIGHT be the better choice in certain circumstances. I am a 1911 FANATIC. It is the only pistol that I have ever USED in combat. I have carried 1911A1's, M9's, HK USP .40's and S&W M65's. My current carry arm BY CHOICE is a Glock M22 Gen4. It is the first Glock that I have ever owned and I bought it two months ago. Some have said that the Glock is the best choice for those that seldom shoot a handgun. I disagree with this. I believe the Glock should be reserved for those that are handgun savvy. The Glock is TOO easy to use for rank beginners. I started shooting pistols at the age of 12 and my first was an old 1911A1. I am 50 now and have carried some type of pistol for most of my adult life. I carry the Glock because it fits my hand better than any pistol other than the 1911; it is compact for its firepower and I actually like the way it looks. I love guns but to me, a gun should be practical. You should be able to carry it in bad weather without worry. If I carry a 1911, it will be a stainless model. My rifles are all "black guns." I love the look of highly grained walnut and bright bluing but not in the field. Guns are tools and if I can't depend on it then I don't want it. If John Browning were alive today, his creations would resemble the new "plastic" guns. Why? Because he designed practical guns. The original prototypes for the High Power, his last design, were striker fired like the Glocks, XD's and M&P's. Opinions are opinions and if a pistol doesn't fit your hand then you don't need to try to use it. My wife uses a Sig P250 fullsize .40. It fits her hand better but it looks gigantic up against my fullsize Glock.

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