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    XD has better look than the Glock...and a grip saftey as well as USA trigger system..both have to be depressed for the striker to fire...so if you drop it it wont go off. plus if ya like the 45acp you can't go wrong with 14rds!

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    Glock doesn't go off if droped either.

    I am not that big of a huge Glock fan anymore. Although, I do think that the G34 is one of the best longer barreled 9mms out there. But, I do favor the Glock to the XD. But, we all have our tastes

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    Don't force me to....

    Quote Originally Posted by Shipwreck View Post
    Glock doesn't go off if droped either.

    I am not that big of a huge Glock fan anymore. Although, I do think that the G34 is one of the best longer barreled 9mms out there. But, I do favor the Glock to the XD. But, we all have our tastes

    ....to have to call you a dilitante too LMAO.....

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    People compare allot of guns to Glock because they are very common. Many civi and LEO's use them. I would recommend trying as many guns as you can before you buy. Glock is a good gun, but not for me. My main problem with them is grip angle, no external safety and the fact that I can't shoot them for sh*t. I can get very good groups with my other guns (especially my HK) but not with Glock for some reason. Try to shoot before you buy, read all you can and choose what feels best for you! Don't just follow the crowd because it is important to find that gun that fits you.




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    Yeah, I know I'm in the minority here, but....................I love my Glock G20 and have liked all my previous Glocks. Grip angle fits me fine, not sure what the problem is with having to pull the trigger before disassembly? Surely one can clear the gun, I don't put my finger inside the trigger guard unless I'm gonna' shoot something which means the gun is NOT going to go off, and mine have always shot EVERY time I have pulled the trigger. OK, flame suit on!

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    Here's a good Glock......









    I still like my G37 in OD, though..........

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    I don't worry about that - all the Glock nay-sayers love these kinda pictures. Turth is - it could happen to any gun. And, the issues seem to almost always revolve around the 40 cal - it is such a high pressure round. Even when not shooting lead (so no worry of build up), many people have issues w/ reloads in the caliber. The brass weakens over time, and eventually there is a case rupture.

    In 1995, I had a squib in a Glock 17 due to bad reloads. Bulged the barrel VERY badly - but, all other parts of the gun were fine (took a gun smith to get the gun apart). Ever since then - I refuse to use any reloads.

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    Right you are.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Shipwreck View Post
    I don't worry about that - all the Glock nay-sayers love these kinda pictures. Turth is - it could happen to any gun. And, the issues seem to almost always revolve around the 40 cal - it is such a high pressure round. Even when not shooting lead (so no worry of build up), many people have issues w/ reloads in the caliber. The brass weakens over time, and eventually there is a case rupture.

    In 1995, I had a squib in a Glock 17 due to bad reloads. Bulged the barrel VERY badly - but, all other parts of the gun were fine (took a gun smith to get the gun apart). Ever since then - I refuse to use any reloads.

    ....it is a 40 cal issue, especially with re-loads...but I have also seen it with Colt 1911's that had super hot re-loads loaded in them....I NEVER use re-loads...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dustoff '68 View Post
    ....it is a 40 cal issue, especially with re-loads...but I have also seen it with Colt 1911's that had super hot re-loads loaded in them....I NEVER use re-loads...


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    My head has been turned since I first posted this.

    I have seen the error of my ways, and have been directed toward the light: .45 caliber and 1911 shall lead the way.

    There is Kimber Compact CDP II in my future.

    In the meantime, I stll love my Ruger P89 and my Single Action Blackhawk .357.


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    It would be a whole lot more.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Wandering Man View Post
    My head has been turned since I first posted this.

    I have seen the error of my ways, and have been directed toward the light: .45 caliber and 1911 shall lead the way.

    There is Kimber Compact CDP II in my future.

    In the meantime, I stll love my Ruger P89 and my Single Action Blackhawk .357.


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    now you tell me.

    I guess I'll just have to limp by with what I got, or will get.



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    my...my....my....ever heard the phrase "Glock Perfection"?

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    A Glock is a good gun... It is far from perfection.....

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    Glocks wont discharge either if dropped. The firing pin safety comes as close to a guaranty as you can get that if the trigger isn't pulled, the striker cannot move forward. People have dropped loaded Glocks from several hundred feet and no discharges. I do agree that Berettas are easy to disassemble for field stripping, but for me, they are no easier than Glocks. As for full disassembly, I think Glocks are the easiest guns out there.

    I have spoken to a number of shooters who have purchased the XDs. In general, they are pleased with the gun. The only complaint I have heard them mention is that the finish isn't as durable as the Glock tenifer finish. One guy who shoots IDPA frequently complained that he had to oil the gun the same day he shot it if it got wet or he would find a little rust starting to form on the outside the next day. But, for accuracy, reliability, price and ease of pointing, they like the gun. Some of them raved about the 5" barreled .45.
    I will stick with my Glocks but I can understand why the XD's are attractive guns.

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    Eventually I will own ever model.

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    I carried a Glock 22C for 10 years as a duty gun. I never had a single malfunction, which for me, matters alot more than the way it looks. I actually like the look though. For cops, external manual safeties are bad. Pull the trigger, go bang! is good for you when the perverbial fecal material hits the air moving device. Some Glock positives...

    No external hammer to get snagged, lightweight, tenifer finish is amazing, hexagonal rifling is extremely accurate and durable if you stick to copper jackets. You can freeze 'em, drop 'em, soak 'em, dirty 'em and they still fire. Limp wristing any gun will cause malfunctions. The moment about your wrist(that is a torque term) is extremely low due to the fact the bore is very close to your grip. This results in less muzzle flip and lower perceived recoil, but fat handed boys may get bit by the slide. The glock employs three safeties: trigger safety, firing pin safety, and drop safety. All of these are defeated by sqeezing the trigger.

    I would encourage anyone considering a Glock to opt for the 'C' model. Those little cuts in the barrel and slide do amazing things for the accuracy of the weapon and fast follow-up shots.

    Now with all of that said, I REALLY like my FN FiveSeven. 31 rounds in a loaded handgun??? Who could argue with that??? Although I'm having to get used to that dang safety!!!!!

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    I am new to the forum but not new to guns. Guns are like trucks, you will have your Ford guys, Chevy and Dodges, all will claim to be the best. When it come to a firearm the best one for you is one that goes bang every time you pull the trigger and one that you can constantly shoot accuratley. What may be the perfect gun for me may not work at all for you. A good Sat afternnon plinker does not a good concealment gun make, so you see there are lots of variables. My best advice is shoot as many different guns as you can until you find one that you really like and are accurate with. For conceal carry, you can't beat the finish on the Glocks, at the very least you want a SS finish because of sweat and holster wear. A Glock like revolvers are very simple to operate, no saftey's, you basically aim and pull the trigger. The carry gun I chose was a Glock 23, this is the sub compact 40 cal. The 40 cal is a awesome man stopper, I can use the short 10 round mags when concealment is very important, or I can use the 13 rounders with the +2 extensions when firepower is more important. My best advice to you is shoot as many guns as you can as often as you can and don't listen to " My _______ is the best gun ever made" bull.

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    Quote Originally Posted by martial_field View Post
    Glocks wont discharge either if dropped.
    Almost all current "service type" semi autos fall into that now, however. Once, certain states require it, and two, its sorta expected now in most semi-autos. Walther, Beretta, XD, S&W M&Ps... Many more (Taurus, etc) have that feature too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NCHornet View Post
    The carry gun I chose was a Glock 23, this is the sub compact 40 cal.
    The Glock 23 is the Compact, the Sub Compact .40 cal is the Glock 27.

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