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    Way back when I spent almost as much time on the range instructing Department shooters as I did actually working I was (and believe I still am) purdy darned square with a handgun. We swapped (as a Department) the 38 and 357 line we carried (mostly 686's and GP100's) for the Glock, back in....1997 (ish?). Anyway, yeah, we were a day late and a dollar short as usual. Most complex's employing upwards of 500 security employees with requal's yearly, some bi-yearly for tactical, instructors and transport staff. A "set" of firearms would be maintained for range use at each armory. Usually in the neighborhood of 20 guns. Sent out each week, sometimes for 4 to 5 days of qualification courses, for up to 20 shooters firing anywhere from 68 rounds per day (6 practice, 50 qual course and 12 discretionary) to several hundred if the shooter needed another qual round, remedial instruction, transition course (new Glock qualifiers 300-500 rds), etc. Basically, the same 20 (+/-) firearms would see constant use for years. I have to tell you I was not initially impressed with the change. But after seeing the same bang bangs used for several years with little to no repair required, I fell in love with them. So when I finally switched over to a remote duty location requiring an issue firearm (domiciled) and I was given the only thing available (an old range banger) I wasn't too worried. I took it into an armorer and had a function check done. She was prone to class 3's as the extractor was worn out and the slide spring was of the original un-captured variety (as I recall now the firing pin, though working, was worn enough to be replaced.) A thorough go thru and replacement of the said parts has resulted in a thoroughly worn yet so far very reliable duty gun. No burps and going on 3 years with the same one. In fact I just qual'd with it last month. 248 out of 250. No malfunctions (other than my eyes gettting older and my hand not nearly as in practice as it used to be. Those 2 points were shooter error. .

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    Quote Originally Posted by scooter View Post
    And a great many auto pistols are just altered copies of the 1911...............
    and for every m&p they sell, they give a chunk of the profit to glock.... glock sued and won for patent infringement.... so basically, the m&p is a licensed copy of the glock

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    Are you sure it's the M&P? I thought it was the Sigma. I remember when that came out it was soooo blatently obvious. Almost rude.

    Momma was issued a M&P 40 for duty and I got a chance to put in some time with it. Don't recall it as being the copy of a Glock like the Sigma was, but hey, anything is possible. It's industrial espionage!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jess View Post
    Are you sure it's the M&P? I thought it was the Sigma. I remember when that came out it was soooo blatently obvious. Almost rude.

    Momma was issued a M&P 40 for duty and I got a chance to put in some time with it. Don't recall it as being the copy of a Glock like the Sigma was, but hey, anything is possible. It's industrial espionage!
    you are correct, i misspoke ... its is/was the sigma..... my apologies


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    No sweat from my brow. As I get older I mis-quote and mix up info all the time. I owe my partner a burro at least twice a month for quoting 80's music wrong! Something I used to think I was an afficionado at... Apparently not it would seem. It always starts, "Man do you remember that song?! I was AT that concert, so-n-so was the **** back then!" And then Albert says, "That wasn't so-n-so." "Yes, Albert, it WAS!" "Wanna bet a burro...?" It's all down hill from there.

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    i guess at 48 its time for me to take some ginko..... IF i remember

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