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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd View Post
    Is this a normal night at Casa de SuckLead?
    No, thank God. But it is exactly what I tell new shooters who think they can buy a gun, never practice, and shoot really well under a lot of pressure with a lot of andrenaline rushing through them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd View Post
    Is this a normal night at Casa de SuckLead?
    hahaha, interesting idea though

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuckLead View Post
    No, thank God. But it is exactly what I tell new shooters who think they can buy a gun, never practice, and shoot really well under a lot of pressure with a lot of andrenaline rushing through them.
    So you get to say that a lot, then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuckLead View Post
    To be completely fair, you really can't be 100% sure with any semi-auto. When you load up the magazine, you've got a spring under pressure. It is normally reccomended that you change magazines frequently, unloading one and loading up another, to spare the life of the magazine spring. Mostly because after that long a period of time, you've probably broken the tension on the spring and it won't feed correctly. You'll blame the gun, of course, because most do. But in actually you've asked too much of one spring.
    It's been mentioned several times in other threads that leaving a mag loaded won't hurt the spring. It's cycling that wears it out, so loading and unloading it repeatedly like that would wear it out quicker. You have springs under pressure in all sorts of other equipment without them losing tension...windows, cars, watches, you name it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd View Post
    So you get to say that a lot, then.
    Yeah, we can say it is well practiced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kg333 View Post
    It's been mentioned several times in other threads that leaving a mag loaded won't hurt the spring. It's cycling that wears it out, so loading and unloading it repeatedly like that would wear it out quicker. You have springs under pressure in all sorts of other equipment without them losing tension...windows, cars, watches, you name it.

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    Well, I personally don't agree. I've gone through wracks of magazines too many times for people who left ammo sitting in their magazines for a few years and suddenly they go shoot and the gun isn't feeding. But it seems to clear up with the new magazines.

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    Agree or not, it's very well known how metal wears and how things break, and metal things break by wear and cycling. Loading and unloading mags will wear springs faster, which is essentially the opposite of what you are saying.

    But hey - it's a free country, and you can believe whatever you want....

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    I do plan on going to the range occasionally, but time really does seem to fly sometimes.

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    oh and the intruder air horn practice would really piss my dog and wife off, but still hilarious

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuckLead View Post
    Well, I personally don't agree. I've gone through wracks of magazines too many times for people who left ammo sitting in their magazines for a few years and suddenly they go shoot and the gun isn't feeding. But it seems to clear up with the new magazines.
    You're right to the extent that setting a loaded mag for years can cause a spring to fail rather from dirt getting in there or the fact that it's sat FOR YEARS.

    kg, NO a loaded mag wont hurt it if it sits a while but if we're talking years then I'm not trusting that mag until I at least take it apart and see if the spring is toast for sitting compressed - for years.

    It looks like both of you are talking about two different things though really. You can let a mag sit for say..A month or so and it should be OK if it's been in a clean dry place but if it sits there for too long there are just way too many variables that can comer into play that can cause a mag to fail. Even a mag that was in your trunk for a couple/few months cna fail pretty easy. A lot of crap finds it's way into things that are not payed attention to.

    True though the person that loads and unloads and loads and unloads every day or even every couple days you are simulating the wear that it was designed to take and it will wear out faster than the mag that sits for a couple months in the safe loaded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DevilsJohnson View Post
    kg, NO a loaded mag wont hurt it if it sits a while but if we're talking years then I'm not trusting that mag until I at least take it apart and see if the spring is toast for sitting compressed - for years.
    Fair enough, I wouldn't trust it either. I was just pointing out that the "does it wear out under compression or doesn't it" question has been beaten to death in other discussions.

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    Sure it will, just like any other device that is worked back and forth. The more you use it the more it wears.

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    I can't speak for anyone else, but this is how I feel: I've had a lot of mechanical, electrical, metal, plastic etc. instruments fail on me in my relatively short lifetime. From cars to bikes to blenders to televisions to really expensive cordless drills. I would never trust anything that I didn't inspect myself, especially something that had been sitting for several years. Granted, Glock's reputation for reliability is exceptional. That's one of the reasons that I own and carry a Glock 19.

    But if/when I'm faced with a situation where my life is threatened, I want to know that not only will my defensive tool of choice operate flawlessly in the manner in which it was intended, but also that I will be able to use it effectively. For me, that means that it goes with me everywhere. On my person when it legally can be, and in my nightstand or end table drawer
    when I'm at home. I've spent the last couple of months practicing shooting it the range, drawing it from my IWB holster (unloaded, of course) at home, cleaning it, buying it dinner, telling it not to listen when a Kimber owner or wheel-gunner calls it ugly. But seriously, it has become an extension of my person as much as an inanimate object can be. I know I wouldn't feel as confident in my self-preservation abilities if my Glock was serving five to ten in dark gun safe under my bed. Plus I'd miss it too much.

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    You are one sick dude, but I agree. Gee, what does that make me?

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    if your gun is going to be locked up under your bed you may as well not even have it.certainly not for emergencies..

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