+12 MonsterB

Great solution - buy both

By the way - your ammo situation is just the oppisite of mine - we have 9 mm everywhere and almost no 40.

Hmmm maybe I could ship you some and you could do the same in return? Haha, usually I can find 9mm around, two weeks ago it was in every store around, but like usual, its gone almost overnight.....I bought 600 rounds but of course its all gone now....next time I see it Im getting 1000 rounds, gonna use 1/2 of it and try to sit on the other 1/2...

And also, Im still leaning torwards the 27....I havent owned a glock yet, but have wanted one for a long time, and its gonne be my ccw, which I want to be as reliable as possible....so thats why Im going Glock, plus plenty of other reasons....my biggest problem is trying to decide between that, the 26, and the 19....I have shot and like them all, and while my other guns are 9mm I think Im gonna get the 27...hopefully its everything I think it will be...will have one in a week or two...

for CCW 27

So I went and got the 26...they had a 27 right next to it for the same price but I ended up sticking with 9mm....I dont really feel bad because I love this new gun so much its silly....Ill just get a 27 in a month or two, but for now will be happy with the 26....I got it on Thursday, got a day off from work, went over my buddys and cleaned it (while selling him my Sig sp2009), then went shooting a couple hours later.....heres a pic of my first target, from 10 yards....


I dont want to sound crazy but I have owned a few guns and this is my first Glock and I am finding out what the Glock thing is really all about.....this gun is incredible, its better than I could have even hoped it would be and I am just so happy I finally got myself a Glock....I want my gun to shoot straight and shoot all the time, and this gun has done more than that....Ive already put 500+ rounds through it since Thursday and I have not had a single problem.....I bought this gun knowing that my buddies are Sig fans, and even they cant help being impressed by it....the Hype is real, these things rock!

By the way before yoy flame me on my target, keep in mind Ive never shot a sub compact befre that target in my life, and have only been shooting for about 2-3 months.....mostly on a Sig sp2009, but Ive logged about 3000 rounds since I started.....so Im sure alot of you can shoot better but for me that is one of the tightest groups Ive ever shot and it was on a brand new gun......lets just say I fell in love right away.....

Congratulations on your new Glock.

I own a 26 and feel the same as you do about it.

Oh, and the target looks fine to me.

The G26 is a fine gun. Everything about it is great. Accuracy, weight, size. etc.

Originally Posted by MonsterB

yes and good luck finding one....better order one now if you can....I cant find hardly any 19 or 26 or 27 anywhere, most places are out of them most of the time....never mind the hoopla thats surrounding the 4th gen....the fact that you cant even find a pic anywhere of one makes me think it may be longer than expected to see them..I am going to a big gun show in January with money to burn, I know its a crazy long shot but you never know what might be there....

Well, I never said they would be easy to find. Or that you could get them quickly.
My main CCW is sold now. Bills to pay and all. When I get caught up I will get the G19. Until then I will carry what I have.
Funny how things work out. Some areas have 9mm ammo easy to find, others 40sw etc.
I have brought most of my pistols to 9mm. Sold off all but one 45 and 22lr. 45acp is over 21.00 for 50 rounds here. 9mm and 22lr are the least expensive.
Any way. Glocks seem to be very good guns.
Good luck on your buy.

Glock is running a really good deal on the 27 right now. It comes with three magazines.

I like the 27 with an in the pocket holster. I've carried since 81 , the convienence of carrying in the pocket is nice to just grab the gun, shove in your pocket and go ,no fiddling around with a shoulder holster or ankle etc. plus the wife never notices . . It may be a slow draw but not in all situations. I;ve been in a situation where I can go very unnoticed and have both or one hand in my pocket(s) with my hand already on the hand gun. fastest draw possible. try keeping a hand on your side arm with a shoulder or pancake without raising suspicion

MonsterB...dont worry about your target, it looks fine to me. I wouldn't want to be a bad guy if you're shooting a group like that at 10 yds!

Glock 26

GREAT weapon especially with a 33 shot clip (yes, not a conceal and carry weapon at that point but a hoot to look at)

glock 23

Originally Posted by tc2

I carry the 27 with 180 grain hp. I was concerned about recoil. It shoots like a dream and handles great. I double tapped it several times with no problems. I stippled the grip and also reduced the frame myself and it came out great. Now I am looking at the g 21sf as an addition to my gun family. If anyone has comments on the 21sf please advise.
Thanks
Tom

I HAVE A G20sf AND IT IS MY FAVORITE. ALSO HAVE A29sf for summer concealment. hides easily under a t-shirt with a clip-draw. my guess is you will not be disappointed.

Originally Posted by MonsterB

yes and good luck finding one....better order one now if you can....I cant find hardly any 19 or 26 or 27 anywhere, most places are out of them most of the time....never mind the hoopla thats surrounding the 4th gen....the fact that you cant even find a pic anywhere of one makes me think it may be longer than expected to see them..I am going to a big gun show in January with money to burn, I know its a crazy long shot but you never know what might be there....

I suppose that this info may be of little use to you now, but the Gen4 19 is not likely coming out until this summer.

Depending on where you are living and shopping, it shouldn't be too hard to locate a current 3rd gen 19. When I had my local shop order me a 19 with the RTF2 finish in late January, they were able to get it into their shop in less than 48 hours and they got 2 others at the same time that they ordered mine through their distributor network.

ordered and picked up my glock 33 last month and then transferred my buddies 29 to me so at the moment the 10mm is my carry piece

G33 (357sig.) is the only way to go. You get the same power as the .40 pushing a 9mm size lead instead of a 10mm size lead. That means; hotter, faster (1350fps), flatter, more energy, more velocity, what's your life worth. What if you had to shoot through something like a wood door or a car door to protect your family? If some is good, more is better!!!!!


Keep on Glockin'

Originally Posted by techron

I have a smith and wesson 9mm which i like but is not a subcompact frame. I will be taking the CCW course in Ohio and debating which glock i should get.

I would like to get some expert advice on this, as it will greatly influence the handgun which i will purchase.

.357 Glock 33
.38 Glock 28
.40 Glock 27

I am leaning towards the .38 or the .40 not so much the .357 but ide like to hear what you have to say.

I want to stay away from a .45 since i feel that is too big of a caliber for the CCW and since i have a 9mm already i would like to have different caliber.

how about a glock 36. slimline.

Originally Posted by hardbargin

how about a glock 36. slimline.

Not to be a butt, but did you miss the part where he said he wanted to avoid the .45????

I know I'm the FNG, and I joined really because of Kahr issues (shocker)... but needless to say, I AM a Glock guy, though and through. I own both .40 and .45 cal (23, 27 and 36) and ultimately, bought a Kahr CW40 for ccw. Here's my glockage:

G23 - GREAT home defense weapon, shoots AMAZING (have a 23c so snappiness is kinda mitigated- honestly, .40 recoil doesn't bother me anyway, I practice)... Regardless of how great the 23c's PROs are, the con is that it's plain difficult to conceal, at least for most.

SO, for CCW purposes I bought a G27. LOVE IT. same reliablilty (same AMAZING auto-trigger, which is IMHO the best thing any glock's got going for it, and of course AK-like reliablilty). YES, the G27's shorter grip is great for CCW- BUT, it's still as thick as a brick!! Also, shooting mags without pinky extensions is plain silly with mini-glock, especially .40 with that snap. Again, .40 recoil doesn't bother me, but with 2 fingers on only, let's just say it took some practice to shoot as accurately with the G27 as the G23. In fairness, I'm probably 85% there.. NOT 100... Bottom Line: GREAT weapon, but (at least for me) too thick to CCW effectively.

G36: I know you already said you're against the .45... but this to me makes no sense. IN FACT, I would sooner choose the .45 over ALL - especially if you're asking about .380!!! (Don't ever bother carrying one of those!!).. .45 is aheavier bullet, and with slower muzzle velocities has LESS snap (significantly) than the .40.. in fact, it's kinda puppy-dog like, like a 9mm. Someone already pointed out valid fact about .357 sig, but ammo's a pain in the ass to get, and I'd sooner go .45 model 36 slimline. POINT 2 re: 36 - you mentioned CCW, and slimline IS thinner.. (still thick compared to kahr tho).

Latest Pistol: Kahr Cw40. AMAZING for CCW - TINY. CW is not the micro (PM model is) what's crazy is that the CW actually has a LONGER barrel, yet SHORTER overall length than G27.... AND, you're comparing smallest glock to SECOND SMALLEST kahr.. so this goes to show. I know you aksed about Glock, but the kahr deserves a mention, because im my opinion, it's kind of the best of ALL worlds *(except trigger!): kahrs CW is kinda like taking the best of a G27 AND a G23c AND the "slim-line" ness of a 36.. all in one - AND NARROWER THAN ALL THE GLOCKS. period.

ALSO, if you have any doubts about the severity of difference in thickness, go to a store and field strip BOTH pistols - hold one in each hand and look (top view) at the frame in each hand- look HOW MUCH tinier the kahr is - without the slides on, you can REALLY see the difference.... So regarding CCW, I really do encourage you to look at the slimline .45, model 36. GREAT GREAT pistol too. And the Glock trigger SPANKS the kahr, it aint even a fair fight there.

In terms of simplicity, reliability AND a ferrocious trigger, you just CAN NOT BEAT A GLOCK. They are MADE to shoot fast, and follow up. in retrospect, I probably would have opted for .357 sig, if only ammo was easier to procure. I made my choice with .40 as my primary, and I'm happy I did- you can find .40 everywhere - you can find 9mm for a damn.. I guess it comes down to geography.

Originally Posted by techron

I have a smith and wesson 9mm which i like but is not a subcompact frame. I will be taking the CCW course in Ohio and debating which glock i should get.

I would like to get some expert advice on this, as it will greatly influence the handgun which i will purchase.

.357 Glock 33
.38 Glock 28
.40 Glock 27

I am leaning towards the .38 or the .40 not so much the .357 but ide like to hear what you have to say.

I want to stay away from a .45 since i feel that is too big of a caliber for the CCW and since i have a 9mm already i would like to have different caliber.

G33 (357sig.).....I say go with the 357sig. The G31, G32 & G33 are all awesome. The 357sig. is what the big boys shoot. When they designed the 357sig, they were trying to match the ballistics of a 357mag, shooting a 125gr bullet. In an average load such as the Remington JHP, they got close. The 357mag. comes out blazin' at 1450fps. while the 357sig. hauls ass at 1350fps. Check it out for yourself 9mm Ballistics Chart | Ballistics 101 .....Now I ask you, are you gonna run with the Big Dogs....or, keep your ass on the porch????

Originally Posted by techron

...... I would like to get some expert advice on this, as it will greatly influence the handgun which i will purchase.

.357 Glock 33
.38 Glock 28
.40 Glock 27

I am leaning towards the .38 or the .40 not so much the .357 but ide like to hear what you have to say. I want to stay away from a .45 since i feel that is too big of a caliber for the CCW and since i have a 9mm already i would like to have different caliber.

Didn't read the entire thread; however, by now, you must have been told, at least twice, that there are no Glock 38's in America. (There should be; but, there aren't. Besides it's not 38; it's 380 Auto.)

I'm not going to vote because I wouldn't use or carry anything on your list. For your first Glock I strongly suggest you consider either a G-19 or a G-17. Otherwise I think you'll both, 'overgun' yourself as well as have a hard time shooting straight. (And, then, there's the expense!)



PS: 'Expert'? I don't know. On the internet everyone, including first year owners, is an expert! I do, however, know Glocks better than most; and I've been doing this for a really long time, too - OK.

This thread is almost three years old and the OP hasn't been back since.