I'd definitely consider it if they had one to offer and I just hadn't purchased my XD9SC.
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in the thread "Back to what's right!!!" under 1911 area...
and considering the recent entries of the thread of "Thin is in ?"...
I was wondering how many would be interested to buy a single stack
9mm pistol?
glock and XD do not come in single stacks - should they build one?
Walther PPS, kel-tec PF9, and Kahr PM9 are the only ones I can think of that are single stack in polymer
Para Ord has 2 9mm 1911 type but I don't think they are very thin. (is the Springfield EMP1911 a single stack? - don't think so)
most of us realize that that if you show a gun a certain % of instances it will be over
and also a large % of instances are finished with less that a few shots
and most backup or undercover guns are the 5-6 shot capacity
6 shots have been the standard since the first single action revolver was made
so why large capacity magazinesneeded ?- the military went to the double stack 9mm and PROBABLY FOR THE POLICE not knowing what they will walk into
your vote and thoughts?
I'd definitely consider it if they had one to offer and I just hadn't purchased my XD9SC.
I think if it were chambered for any less than a .45 (Glock 36) then they would have to remap the way the weapon was made, specifically with the grips. A single stack 9mm would be too small for most hand (Primarily Males, no offence intended).
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they could make the inside of the grip thicker to "compensate" (no pun intended!) for the small magazines. I would be first in line to get a single stack glock or xd 9mm.
Huh. That doesn't seem to have dissuaded buyers of:
S&W 39 series
Kahr 9mms
KelTec PF9
HK P7/P7M8
SIG P225
SIG P239
Springfield EMP
Walther PPS
And other reasonably popular pistols. I have small hands, but I suspect even men with larger hands might accept a slightly small grip in trade for better concealment.
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No. A Glock wouldn't be a Glock if it wasn't hi-cap. The G36 is single and for good reason-anything else would never sell and they know that. Never happen.
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yea that is probably not in glocks interest as most end up in the hands of police and foreign military units
also i just thought - maybe there would be an import regulation that would keep it from happening
is the springfield emp a single stck?
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I think this could be addressed with interchangeable backstrap inserts, making the grip longer front-to-back for those with larger hands, without increasing thickness which can negatively affect concealment. The Kahr guns, for instance, are really too small for my average-size hand. I end up with way too much finger on the trigger, wrapping around to the far side, and then rapid firing gets me side-to-side dispersion because of inconsistent finger placement on the trigger. A slightly longer reach would correct this problem for me.
And yes, I could probably "train" the problem away, but I'd be concerned about falling back into a bad habit during a stressful situation. Better if the gun fits better right off the bat.
Build me a sub 1" thick XD in 45ACP (maybe even 9mm), and I'm in line to buy. A LOOONG line. I looked hard at the G36 specifically for this reason, and found it no smaller than the XD45C. Frame rail clearance is ofcourse the limiting factor... but the Kahrs are VERY thin. I'm looking for a P45 to shoot... Pricey, but an interesting pltform as my preferences mature...
Sub-1911 Commander dimensions (w/ no thumb safety), in XD striker-fired SA reliability?
4" barrel, 6-7 shot mag, .8" slide width, striker fired, XD Compact (G36) grip-length, and interchangable back-straps, 45ACP... The perfect IWB gun.
JW
This is correct, but It would be a change to the design which I stated in my post. If GLOCK we're to redesign their pistols they could do all types of nifty inovations, including finally releasing a US compliant .380. The only down fall to this is GLOCK is following the KISS principle and they dont seem to want to do any major redesigns.
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I'm a little surprised the tally so far isn't hugely a "yes". I agree with Charlie. I'm not a Glock guy but if they made a thin 9mm for CC I would certainly consider it (just on the reliability rep alone) and I would have thought most every Glock guy would jump all over it. Kahr has effectively made it's mark by providing this product to the public.
Since I don't carry, you guys know alot more about it than I do, but I have put some thought into it. The G26, which seems to be the Glock choice for 9mm CC , to me is just a fat gun with a "pinkie dangle" grip. There's not much attraction in that to me. Yeah you can get a floorplate extention, but then just get a bigger model Glock. Maybe this isn't the majority opinion but from what I've considered so far, for CC I would put "thin gun" higher on the priority list than "short grip". So a thin Glock has appeal to me. As for capacity, I think 8-10 shots is plenty to get you off to a good start considering that other poll shows the vast majority carry a spare mag anyway.
Sure, I think SA should make a single stack gun...but they shouldn't call it an XD. Make it a different model, that was designed from the ground up to be a slim handgun.
What I like about the 26 is its versatility. With a flat mag baseplate, I can carry it on an ankle or in the front pocket of my cargo pants. If I switch to a pinky-rest mag, I can carry it on my belt and shoot it as well as a 19. When I put in in my nightstand drawer, I can switch to a full length mag from a 17 and have an easy-to-shoot high-cap pistol.
It is wider than I'd like, but all guns are compromises, and the 26 somewhat makes up for its fatness with versatility.
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Well, I see your point about the extra versatility of ankle carry (BTW, you are just all over this ankle carry thing, huh?), but I don't see much else. I mean, yeah, if you only have one gun and it needs to do all that (including ankle carry) then I get it. But if I've got a full size gun at my disposal for the nightstand (of which I have two), I'm not replacing it with the 26 or any other smaller gun.
So yeah, I would agree it is a versatile carry gun giving you the ankle carry option, but that's about as far as it's versatility goes for me and, I would think for you as well. I mean I would be surprised if you said that the G26 was your primary, or even secondary, HD gun. Anyway, my comment was not so much about the G26 per se, I just seem to be more attracted to the thin gun for carry than the short grip gun. But then there's the PM9, which is both. And you can ankle carry that one from here to Timbuktu.
So yes, I agree with you that the gun can be very versatile for someone that needs it to be. But I wouldn't buy it for the things it can do that I don't need when for me there are more preferable choices for the things I do need it to do.
Understood, Wyatt. However, it is very convenient to just use one gun for everything if you can make it work. The 26 goes from carry gun to bedside gun just by a change of magazines. This means I don't have to run to my gun safe just to get my "dedicated home defense" gun every night before bed. The 26 is very effective with the full length mag, and the practical difference between it and my Glock 17 for HD is negligible.
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The convenience of that is duly noted, Mike. And after your post I've thought of some scenarios where I would seriously consider the G26 or something like it just for the versatility you mentioned. For instance, if I was traveling alot on business or vacation it would be convenient to only take one gun and the appropriate mags to perform all the duties you describe.
But for day to day defense of my family every night, I'm not trading the extra energy provided by the 5" barrel nor the accuracy of that long sight radius (and trijicon sights) just for the convenience of not having to get my Beretta out of a safe. For me, trading performance for that convenience for night-time HD is just not gonna happen. But then again, my gun is not in a 14 gun rifle safe with a five number combo two stories down in the basement either.
My HD guns are in an Amsec box right under the bed where I sleep at night, within arms reach. Yes, I am making a trade-off there in regard to it would probably take me a second longer to draw than from the night stand drawer, but I'm willing to make that trade since the benefits are a) the security of knowing that while I'm asleep my gun is always secure with children in the house, and b) I'm not going to get woken up by a BG who is pointing my gun in my face.
Fair enough. I don't get that wound up about a few dozen foot pounds of energy, and I certainly don't care about an inch of sight radius when fighting at distances often measured in feet rather than yards.
My safe is in my garage, which is as far from my bedroom as possible. And I am lazy.![]()
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The double stack models are so compact now that I see no real use for one in my case. The reason I got another 9mm was just that. For concealed carry one might find the single stack a little better. I would have to try one out first though.