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    Never said it wasn't going to be locked up. It will be with kids around, but the safety on the pistol is an addition that he simply wants. 2 barriers are better than one, and educating the kids on handling a gun is even better yet.

    If a kid can't pull the trigger, then my Dad's arthritic fingers probably can't either.

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    I keep my non-nightstand gun in a locked brief case. At least for now. It's also my range bag. It's a lot cheaper than a gun safe, and a heck of a lot easier to carry to the range.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cineski View Post
    Never said it wasn't going to be locked up. It will be with kids around, but the safety on the pistol is an addition that he simply wants. 2 barriers are better than one, and educating the kids on handling a gun is even better yet.

    If a kid can't pull the trigger, then my Dad's arthritic fingers probably can't either.
    Most guns that are DA/SA a five year old shouldn't be to operate it. If they can then you are in a little trouble but as people always say they shouldn't be able to get the gun. I too have young children, my main reason for wanting a DA/SA is because if somehow they get the safe open they still have to get past the safety and the long DA pull. Your Dad shouldn't have much trouble pulling a hammer back on a revolver or an auto. That is something that can be done with two hands also. Just my .02

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anxiety. View Post
    Your Dad shouldn't have much trouble pulling a hammer back on a revolver.
    Then you're basically reducing the man to using a single-action revolver for defense.

    Upon some some more reflection, I think a lightly-sprung auto is the best choice. DA revolvers have heavy triggers, as several members have pointed out, and weak, arthritic hands will have trouble with that. Also, if he has to reload, an auto will be much easier than a revolver if his hands lack dexterity.

    While I am generally somewhat skeptical about the need for armed citizens to make instant reloads, the fact that his hands don't work so well may make him more likely to miss, and therefore more likely to need to reload.

    A Browning P35 or CZ75 also recoil lightly, especially with non-+P 9mm ammo. The higher capacities of these pistols make the need to reload less likely. Of these two, the CZ is more likely to be reliable out of the box. It's a DA/SA, though if he operates it as a DA, the first shot might be a throwaway with the arthritis.
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    I have Arthritis in both hand, but worse in my right hand, and I am right handed. I cannot shoot the little pistols. The most comfortable gun that I shoot is the Ruger P97 that has had an Action job. The felt recoil is less and the slide easier for me to rack on a full size Auto, than it is on a compact. With my hands like they are I can't take the recoil of small guns. I have a freedom Arms, .22 mag revolver that I can't shoot because of the size and recoil. With me the bigger, heavier pistols work best.

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    Here's another vote for the Beretta with tip-up barrel. Not a big fan of .380, but beats a stern look of disapproval, and it requires less hand strength than other pistols.

    Another option is to build a "cocking jig." (Insert Beavis/Butthead joke here.) A pistol's slide can be operated by pushing it against a table edge, but that is precarious -- the front of the slide can slip off the table edge. Good thing to know for emergencies, but not for regular administrative handling.

    You can build a device with a hole through the center, and a very short cylinder/pipe to guide the pistol, so it does not slip out of position. Push against the pistol and the barrel goes through the hole while the slide retracts. Brace it sturdily, on a heavy desk or workbench, pointed at a bulletproof backstop, and you can use it as a slide operator.

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    i just tried something like that with my beretta 92fs. if i rest the front of the rear site against the top of my belt, i can easily rack the slide by just pressing down. it requires on hand and minimal effort

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    Okay folks, here's an update. Got to go home this past weekend and went to a shooting expo with my dad where he got to try out some guns. He LOVES the .45 1911 (and has no real problem racking the slide of a broken in pistol). Aparently, I was talking up the recoil of it before he shot it to "prep" him for some pain. He shot and said "oh, that's not bad at all!" Great fun! Anyway, he's pretty sold on the .45 1911, specifically Smith & Wesson (and I have to admit, that is a very nice 1911). Anyway, just food for thought.

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    I've read that S&W will soon reissue their "Centennial" .38 Special revolver with a grip safety (resurrecting the old "lemon squeezer"). Since an external safety is a concern of your dad's, that may be an option. If, of course, it really happens. Supposedly, one of the variations will have a color case-hardened frame, adding to the nostalgia without detracting from its functionality.

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    I recently purchased a sig x-five allround in 9mm. Recoil is almost nonexistent, the slide is easy and it's DA/SA.

    BTW, very easy to disassemble and reassemble. Much less finicky than my 1911.

    Same advice for motorcycles, wives and guns. He should get the one(s) he likes the best!

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