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    California approved pocket pistol

    Hey guys, I spent the last few days researching on pocket pistols and had decided pretty much to get a kel tec...until today I found that they are not legal in CA, argh! Any Californians on here share their thoughts on good CA legal pocket pistols? Thanks.

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    About all you can do is move.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joejitsu View Post
    Hey guys, I spent the last few days researching on pocket pistols and had decided pretty much to get a kel tec...until today I found that they are not legal in CA, argh! Any Californians on here share their thoughts on good CA legal pocket pistols? Thanks.

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    Kel Tec's NOT Legal???
    Why in the world NOT? Do they give an explanation behind this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArmyCop View Post
    Kel Tec's NOT Legal???
    Why in the world NOT? Do they give an explanation behind this?
    The explanation is "IT'S CALIFORNIA" Next with Roise's help they will pass a law that you can not own any kind of firearm on the fourth of July. That means you have to sell them all before and then buy again after the 4th.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArmyCop View Post
    Kel Tec's NOT Legal???
    Why in the world NOT? Do they give an explanation behind this?
    The california laws require all new handguns produced to pass a three part safety test. First, they drop them several times and cannot misfire. Second they must be able to shoot 600 rounds with less than 3 malfunctions (i think). Finally, they must have some sort of external safety (which the kel tecs do not).

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    Ohhhhh. Ok. That makes a little sense now.

    With no external safety I guess that'd outlaw most if not all snubbies right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joejitsu View Post
    The california laws require all new handguns produced to pass a three part safety test. First, they drop them several times and cannot misfire. Second they must be able to shoot 600 rounds with less than 3 malfunctions (i think). Finally, they must have some sort of external safety (which the kel tecs do not).

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    You also forget all the cash the manufacturers have to fork over for these "tests" to be conducted. Every variant of the same model must also be tested.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArmyCop View Post
    Ohhhhh. Ok. That makes a little sense now.

    With no external safety I guess that'd outlaw most if not all snubbies right?
    Not if they have those infernal key locks on them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joejitsu View Post
    Finally, they must have some sort of external safety (which the kel tecs do not).
    I guess that makes Glocks and XD's and all revolvers illegal there too then? That doesn't seem right. Then again, it is Kaliforniastan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd View Post
    I guess that makes Glocks and XD's and all revolvers illegal there too then? That doesn't seem right. Then again, it is Kaliforniastan.
    I got a big yellow sticker on my XD that says it's illegal in California. good think I have to plans of moving there. I'm supprised my XD doesn't have a sticker telling my that "this product is know, by the state of California, to cause cancer"

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    I hear that they cause "lead poisoning" too I

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joejitsu View Post
    Second they must be able to shoot 600 rounds with less than 3 malfunctions
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    That's why the Kel-Tec isn't legal

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd View Post
    I guess that makes Glocks and XD's and all revolvers illegal there too then? That doesn't seem right. Then again, it is Kaliforniastan.

    No, they are legal in California because the safety is the trigger safety on the glocks and the trigger safety + grip safety on the XDs. It doesn't have to be an old school safety, just some sort of safety from what I understand. Every gun store in CA sells a ton of glocks and XDs (purchased one last week) so they are definitely legal.

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    Revolvers don't need a safety in Kalifornia

    I just bought a very nice SP101, no safety. I am surprised I can buy ANY handgun in this messed up State.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joejitsu View Post
    Hey guys, I spent the last few days researching on pocket pistols and had decided pretty much to get a kel tec...until today I found that they are not legal in CA, argh! Any Californians on here share their thoughts on good CA legal pocket pistols? Thanks.

    Joe
    You can one one provided that it is made of PINK plastic and will not hold more than 5 cc's of water. Oh, and it cannot have an effective range beyond 3 feet.

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    Not really impressed with my P3-AT. I guess a Kahr would also be out of the question. I do like my P40.
    Do like Tommy Lee Jones says,"get yourself a Glock, and get rid of that nickle plated sissy pistol."

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    Yup, Kel-Tecs aren't allowed in CA.

    Check this DOJ site that tells you what CA allow and what don't allow:
    http://certguns.doj.ca.gov/

    Glocks are on the list! What about a subcompact Glock model 26?

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    Pocket pistols

    I'd like to see a list of five good pocket pistols that are California legal. I don't want to spend time bashing California, it's a great State and other than the limited selection of guns to purchase, I love the State. I can wait ten days to pick up a weapon, I just wish I had more choices. I'm certainly not going to move so I can buy a Ruger LCP.

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    Everyone is missing the biggest reason why a some handguns cannot be sold in KA. Manufacturers decline to submit a handgun for testing. If you want to sell it in KA, you must submit several samples of each model for testing. XD's are legal for sale, XDM's are not. All Glocks are legal, as are most Sigs. External safties are not an issue, internal safties are. Alot of manufacturers have just written off KA. I can't say I blame them.

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    We spell California with a "C". I sometimes think that people are jealous of California and all it's natural beauty. If these gun manufacturers want to write California off, that's their business. I wish it didn't have to be that way, but I can roll with it. I can only buy so many guns anyway.

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