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    Quote Originally Posted by -gunut- View Post
    I have seen that before. That guy is a moron.
    Moron? I would say he is an intelligent, articulate fellow with an unusual and valuable perspective, with whom I do not agree on several particulars. On the other hand, some people define "moron" as "anybody who doesn't agree with me."

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    Quote Originally Posted by milquetoast View Post
    Moron? I would say he is an intelligent, articulate fellow with an unusual and valuable perspective, with whom I do not agree on several particulars. On the other hand, some people define "moron" as "anybody who doesn't agree with me."
    The logic he presents in that article lead me to believe he is a moron. Your opinion may vary.

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    Shot placement can not be stressed enough. I carry a 9mm for work, but also own the same platform in 40SW (Walther P99). I have also owned 357SIG and 45ACP in the past. The size of the round means nothing if you can not hit what you are aiming for. Just my 2 coppers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jenglish View Post
    Shot placement can not be stressed enough. I carry a 9mm for work, but also own the same platform in 40SW (Walther P99). I have also owned 357SIG and 45ACP in the past. The size of the round means nothing if you can not hit what you are aiming for. Just my 2 coppers.
    Agreed!! Practice-Training-Practice-Training-Practice!!!

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    This debate will go on forever. Long after you and I are here. Everyone will agree that shot placement is key. Acquiring the follow up shot is also as important. But not all situations are perfect. If you get a chance to fire off five rounds and only one hits, would you want that to be a .45 or a 9mm? I carry .45 and I don't have to constantly rationalize that 9mm is sufficient as long as bla bla bla...

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    I think of extremes. If an M1 shooting 30-06 @ 180g and about 3000ft lbs. muzzle energy will not always stop someone unless hit in a vital area, then why would a 9mm or .45acp at about 400 ft. lbs stop them...unless hit in vital area? It's all about shot placement.

    Well, OK if they are at 500 yards or wearing body armor, then I will take an M1. Come to think of it I will always take the M1 but it is hard to carry in a concealed holster.

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    400 fps??????????????

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    400 fps??????????????
    Not feet per second....foot lbs.

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    Yup , trying to read too fast again...

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    Wouldn't it just be easier to say that every caliber has it's place. One just needs to pick there tools that is best going to fit his / her mission. At least that is how I would look at it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lawnman380 View Post
    Practice-Training-Practice-Training-Practice!!!
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    I carry a .45, but would feel fine with a 9mm or .40

    My reasons for carrying a .45 are simple, I like the way it feels and I shoot better with it. Everyone is different, experiment a little and find out for yourself what you shoot better with, then go from there.
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    All are good defense calibers. It boils down to personal preference. As has been previously mentioned, shot placement and practice is the most important thing. I personally like to shoot the .45 and reload it.

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    Not a true answer to the situation, but this may help a little.


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    I only use 9mm because I cannot fire the larger calibers rapidly and keep control of the weapon accurately enough to hit anything. I can double tap and fire 9mms rapidly and keep them on target.

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    You have to decide which for yourself but I pick the 45 for me.
    Yep, add me to this group. Since I obviously can't guarantee perfect shot placement in a stressful situation, I at least want maximum tissue damage where ever I do hit.

    Besides, I never cared much for the l'il euro-pellet.

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    9MM, .40 S&W, .45 I believe all will get the job done in the hands of a competent shooter.

    For me I prefer to stick w/ .40 S&W just because I can shoot it accurately, and I like the platforms it's available in.

    I own a .357 Mag and a 9MM, but for Duty/CCW/home defense it's .40 S&W for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OrangeSkies View Post
    Yep, add me to this group. Since I obviously can't guarantee perfect shot placement in a stressful situation, I at least want maximum tissue damage where ever I do hit.

    Besides, I never cared much for the l'il euro-pellet.
    Yup. That's what I'm saying. I agree with shot placement and follow up. I also agree with maximum expansion. But these are all great in a lab environment. Put yourself in a difficult situation where you *might* get one out of five shots to hit the bad guy, you want maximum damage.

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    all this talk makes me wonder where the other 4 out of your 5 shots are going.

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    Quote Originally Posted by USAFgsm View Post
    all this talk makes me wonder where the other 4 out of your 5 shots are going.
    they are hitting that kid playing ball 300 yards away...

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