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    Help me choose my new CCW gun... please.

    OK ya all, I need some help in my research for a new CCW gun. I was looking very hard at the Kel-Tec PF-9 but there are so many problems with it that I could not trust the reliability of it. So I’m back to start. My current carry is a Glock 23. My main reason for the change is I want something more comfortable for IWB. My Glock is 1.18” thick, with my Kydex holster it goes to around 1 1/4”-1 3/8”. My body type would be that of a mesomorph, plus I am a short 5’7” (weight 189 lbs).

    This is my criteria:

    Thin- (my main criteria) 1” (+- a hair) or less thick- probably would limit me to single stack
    9mm or larger
    DA/SA (either OK)
    Semiautomatic
    Accessory rail

    That’s it. I don’t ask a lot...do I?

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    The 1" part is gonna be a killer........

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    Well, I love the P99c, but w/ your criteria, the P99c is about as wide as a Glock 26.

    I'd say either the S&W CS9 (I don't have the size, and realize, some measurements also include the safety switch width - so U needa fine one and see what ya thing) or a Keltec 9mm (not fun to shoot).

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    The Walther P99, Sig P239 are both 1.2".

    The Glock 26 is 1.18".

    The CZ 2705 is 1.25".

    And the Bersa Thunder 9 is 1.5".

    I'm not sure what the Kahr's are.

    This is from my prior research. I think I got these sizes off the web sites for the different gun manufacturers.

    You may have to adjust your width expectations.

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    Well, my Kahr P40 is less than 1" thick, but I don't believe they make one with a rail. Same with the S&W CS series. But Smith does make the 3913 series, which are single stack & do have a rail. The 3913 with the rail might be a good choice for you. I've got a friend with the Lady Smith version and it's very concealable and a good shooter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by James NM View Post
    Well, my Kahr P40 is less than 1" thick, but I don't believe they make one with a rail. Same with the S&W CS series. But Smith does make the 3913 series, which are single stack & do have a rail. The 3913 with the rail might be a good choice for you. I've got a friend with the Lady Smith version and it's very concealable and a good shooter.

    http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/w...nt_category_rn=

    Yours for just $924.

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    Dude, that is the super high MSRP - ain't no way U will pay that much.

    The CS9 is a smaller version of that too. nice little carry gun.

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    How thick is the average single stack 1911? I have a hard time finding that measurment when it comes to 1911's. The Glock 36 (.45) in is a little smaller but probably not enough to make much of a difference.

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    My Kimber Compact CDP II is reportedly 1.28".

    Hope that helps.

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    Cs9

    I really like the looks of the CS9. I haven't seen much comment about it in the S&W area.

    Ship is there any reason you know why they don't seem to be more popular? I haven't got my hands on one, but on the surface it just seems like a great carry gun, in fact it is one of a handful I'm considering for carry. I'm dying for a good gun show to come into town.

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    I don't really know about the popularity. If U go to the S&W forum, U will see their popularity, I guess.

    Overall, S&W semi autos aren't as popular anymore compared to the newest polymer semi-autos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wandering Man View Post
    My Kimber Compact CDP II is reportedly 1.28".

    Hope that helps.

    WM
    With real thin grips you can get down around an inch.

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    Both my 1911's with the CTC lasergrips(diode sticks out) are max 1 5/16 thick.
    in a holster with 10-15 degree cant they dissappear under my leather vest.

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    I also like a thin carry gun. The measurements of mine across the grip
    Kahr PM9 -.920"
    S&W 3953 -1"
    Both of these guns are in 9mm, double action only with a slick slide, no external safety, but do not have any rail.

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    I've been getting the 1911 bug lately so am looking that direction. I may have to compromise on some of my requirements.

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    Glory Be! Glory Be!

    He has SEEN the LIGHT!

    Halleluiah Brothers and Sisters!

    Say Amen for Tony. He has seen the light of our brother Moses.




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    Well, keep in mind - for every happy fan of those tiny 1911s, I see a story of woe. The small 1911s are more prone to issues. I'd personally never buy one with shorter than a 4" barrel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shipwreck View Post
    I'd personally never buy one with shorter than a 4" barrel.
    I think a Commander size would do Tony quite well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wandering Man View Post
    Glory Be! Glory Be!

    He has SEEN the LIGHT!

    Halleluiah Brothers and Sisters!

    Say Amen for Tony. He has seen the light of our brother Moses.




    WM

    Am I forgiving brothers and sisters for not coming over from the dark side sooner?

    SW says the 1911 has issues. So do I so we would probably make a good pair.

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