Now where did he go. I'll be dog goned if my dog gone dog is gone!

Originally Posted by tnoisaw

Now where did he go. I'll be dog goned if my dog gone dog is gone!

My head almost exploded reading that. LOL! Maybe I should go to bed now...

I've carried one daily for the last 3 years working for Loomis Fargo Armored. As a messenger I carried a SW99 .45, but now that I work in the vault I carry my 1st Generation HS2000, and have since sold the SW99. .45ACP ammo wasn't in the budget anymore

All this praise of the SW99/P99 on this board have me wanting one again! In 9mm this time. Too bad the DA/SA guns are drying up. That was a sweet trigger.

Bail Enforcement.

Drug dealer.



Kidding.

I do.


I'm retired.

Bob Wright

Originally Posted by Bob Wright

I do.


I'm retired.

Bob Wright

WM

Would being a teacher be a requirement?

Police officer for more years than I care to think about.

A lawyer that has received death threats. Family law will do that for you.

"Don't wanna get killed for a lack of shooting back."

People don't LIKE lawyers, for some unknown reason. Darned if I can figure it out.

My best friend here is an attorney but not yet a CCW holder. As the chief defense attorney it may be a good idea for him.

Originally Posted by Spenser

A lawyer that has received death threats. Family law will do that for you.

"Don't wanna get killed for a lack of shooting back."

People don't LIKE lawyers, for some unknown reason. Darned if I can figure it out.

As an ex LEO I am vocal in my dislike for most lawyers, I dont hate the profession, its just been hijacked (like some claim Islam has been) so badly that I havent seen or heard of one fight for "JUSTICE" for years, its always about the LAW( or rather the loopholes that they find and use to get criminals off), Ill be the first to cheer for any lawyer (or Judge) who goes after justice instead of the "letter of the law" any day

I can understand how you feel Scooter. Until this friend, I had a rather disdain for all lawyers and lumped them all into one group... bad. Just like any other group, there are good, bad and ugly. The problem is that we only see reports on the bad and ugly so that's what sticks in our heads.

I actually was contemplating finishing my degree and going to law school but having been a plumber for over the last decade and being in a career that has very little respect I didn't want to go into another career that has even less respect than plumbers.

Plumbers and lawyers are very similar. You hate us until you need us then we're the greatest there ever was... until you get our bill, then we're hated again.

Originally Posted by scooter

As an ex LEO I am vocal in my dislike for most lawyers, I dont hate the profession, its just been hijacked (like some claim Islam has been) so badly that I havent seen or heard of one fight for "JUSTICE" for years, its always about the LAW( or rather the loopholes that they find and use to get criminals off), Ill be the first to cheer for any lawyer (or Judge) who goes after justice instead of the "letter of the law" any day

Sometimes I have quite a bit of disdain for the profession, myself. Every personal injury lawyer ad that I see on TV makes me realize it can be a scummy profession. It can also be a noble profession, though I think there is much less Atticus Finch than Dewey, Cheatem and Howe.

However, keep in mind that what you call loopholes is what we call the Constitution. Like that 4th amendment thingy. And that 2nd amendment.

I don't think the system itself is broken. What's broken are those that abuse it. It's been hijacked, exactly as you say. I love the Constitution, and the intent behind it. The purpose got lost somewhere around the time Earl Warren became Chief Justice of the Supreme Court. There's where judicial activism started, and a lot of our current problems began.

Regardless, it's a profession that draws a lot of ire. And bullets....

I know what you're saying about the Constitution, I just meant those "loopholes" were put ther to protect the innocent,not to get rapists off because some flatfoot searched a garbage pail w/o getting a warrant first etc,etc,etc........

Most of you should be able to tell where I work based on my signature. It's not a requirement to carry there, but it's not frowned upon either. This is the first place I have ever worked, where when you hear someone rack a slide, everyone goes running to find out what it is that you have. I LOVE MY JOB

Originally Posted by scooter

I know what you're saying about the Constitution, I just meant those "loopholes" were put ther to protect the innocent,not to get rapists off because some flatfoot searched a garbage pail w/o getting a warrant first etc,etc,etc........

I know what you mean as well, but that's where the rubber hits the road. To preserve the whole system, it's got to be applied across the board to everyone. It means that sometimes rapists walk because a search warrant wasn't executed properly, or a suspect confessed to something after being Jack Bauer'ed.

But it keeps the rest of us at least somewhat safe from getting our doors kicked in during the night, or hooked up to electrodes when somebody thinks we've done something wrong.

It's tough. It burns me every time it happens. Justice and the law often have nothing to do with one another. The oft-repeated mantra is that it's better to let 10 guilty men walk than to hang one innocent man. Good points, though.

I would carry at work, but I would have to explain why a computer tech needs a gun.

Originally Posted by DjSaneR

I would carry at work, but I would have to explain why a computer tech needs a gun.

Do they need to know?

Originally Posted by DjSaneR

I would carry at work, but I would have to explain why a computer tech needs a gun.

I dunno........Ive worked on a couple of 'puters that desperately need shooting

Shoulda got a MAC dude.

i am retired leo and no longer need a gun at my new job but i keep my state certification up to date just in case i decide to go into armed security. they are going to need armed security at the new casinos in pittsburgh and i might apply.

As a REALTOR, I'm obviously not required but I do. I know some people don't think that this is necessary, but here are some good examples why I think agents should carry from an article I saved.


The brutal murder of Sarah Ann Walker in McKinney, Texas early this month has again spotlighted a perennial topic - violence against real estate agents and real estate safety tips.
Ms. Walker was presiding over an open house at a new housing development when she was stabbed 27 times. A house hunting couple found her body on the kitchen floor.
Conducting a real estate practice almost by definition puts agents in potentially hazardous situations. An agent conducting an open house is often alone and knows nothing about the person walking in the door. Agents often meet customers for the first time in front of a vacant house, or drive or ride with them to an appointment. It is not uncommon for an agent to be alone in the office late at night, finalizing an offer or catching up on paperwork, and some agents still go door to door looking for listings.

There don't appear to be any real solid statistics on the number of agents who fall victim to murder, rape, assault, or robbery. One source states that 206 agents were murdered on the job between 1982 and 2000. This does not even touch on the number of agents who were the victims of sexual assault, non-fatal shootings, beatings, and stabbings; robbery, and car jacking. Misiu Systems, Ltd which provides security products to the industry lists news articles about 74 incidents including murders, police alerts to agents, sexual assaults, and robberies since February, 1997, ten since the first of this year. Many of the accounts concerned multiple victims.
Among the stories:
St. Petersburg, FL, March 2006. A neatly dressed young man posing as a relocated Drug Enforcement Administration agent spent over four hours looking at houses with a real estate agent before asking to return to one of the first homes he had seen. There he attacked her, took her car keys and purse while threatening to kill her with the gun and the 12-inch hunting knife he had concealed on his person. The agent was hurt but not seriously.
DeKalb County, GA, May 2006. Within 11 days, three female real estate agents in DeKalb County reported being robbed at gunpoint by a man and woman. Police said the incidents appeared similar because each happened in the evening hours, involved a female real estate agent and was allegedly committed by an armed man and woman fitting similar descriptions.
"The perpetrators would contact the Realtor, usually by phone. In one incident, the Realtor actually went to the MARTA station and picked them up, took them to the location, showed them the home, and as they were concluding their walk-through, they were robbed," said Officer Davis. In each case the agent was tied up and her vehicle was stolen.
A month earlier another DeKalb County agent was abducted and forced to withdraw $1,500 from an ATM machine then taken to a jewelry store where she used credit cards to purchase a $7,500 Rolex watch for the robber. During the incident he frequently threatened to shoot her or "dismember" her if she did not cooperate.
Diamond Bar, CA, November 2005. A newly licensed real estate agent was shot and critically wounded while canvassing a neighborhood for clients. The victim had apparently appeared to be acting suspiciously and a homeowner shot him after he knocked on his door. Police thought the agent may have been mistaken for someone the homeowner had had an altercation with earlier in the week.
Baltimore, MD, July 2004. Maryland State Police warned Realtors about a man who allegedly injured one agent and could be stalking others.
In the first incident a female agent was assaulted during an open house by a visitor who looked around the house then picked up an object and struck the agent on the back of the head. Police had first viewed it as an isolated incident but other agents reported a man matching the description had attended open houses in the area and in one case tried to lure the host agent into an isolated part of the house.
The agent who was hit was able to fend off her attacker but police believe it was intended as a sexual assault.

I would tell you why I carry but if I did I would have to kill you so I won't