That's the way for sure. +1....Take your time and learn about your gun.
Advice for 22 owners, this also works for other guns.
After you buy your 22 and take it home. Read the manual and then field strip, clean and lube it. Learn how to clean your gun, not just run a patch down the barrel.
Before you go shooting, pick up 4, 5 or more different brands/types of ammo. Try each brand and find the one YOUR gun likes best. Don't keep trying to get one brand to work because it's cheaper, your buddy or the guy at the store recommended it. If it doesn't work, jams, won't feed or group move on.
When you're shooting for the first time, use factory magazines. There are a ton of aftermarket mags out there to try later.
If you have a problem pay attention to what it is.
Is the safety off?
Is the mag fully seated in the gun?
Is the slide or bolt all the way forward?
Is the gun (chamber, bolt, slide) clean?
Is it a specific brand of ammo?
Is it a specific type of ammo (ie solids, hollow points)?
Is it one magazine or all of them?
Are the feed lips bent or damaged on the mag?
Are the spring and follower good in the mag?
Does it happen when the gun is in a different position?
Now if you have a problem it's easier to pinpoint and solve.
That's the way for sure. +1....Take your time and learn about your gun.
well im new to the forum but i use a 22lr berreta with alternate rds of quick shock and hypervelocity. no this isnt made to take to a gunfight. its made for what i wanted. a pocket pistol that i could be accuraate with at 20 ft.a mugger usually stole his gun and is counting on a surprize attack.. its doubtful hes going to be very good . its your job to be observant and see him before he even chooses u as his mark.
the accuracy came slow. but finally after 1100 rds i can say that i can
put 6 out of seven in a four inch circle shooting fast, hand eye coordination firing.in other wds not aimed like thru the sights.
will it stop a man. try shooting a bible sized phonebook . that quick shok would i believe put a man in shock after one shot even if u hit him in the shoulder..just try one on a dead animal ,then open the wound and see what it looks like in there. .. my game plan is 2or 3 shots,,before i stop...
no ive never shot a man but ive had several guns pulled on me and i know how i react.. my mind speeds up and the objective became getting out alive,what ever that took. [usually calming the gun holder down ,until u can vacate the premisses
[these were not muggers but mostly people that owed me money]... knowing how u are going to react is probably the most important thing a person should know about his or herself ,before they decide to carry an anti mugger piece or not.im 60 so im too old to lie ,trying to impress anyone here.just my thots on it.
nissan24 is right but the 22LR is best for the eyes ears nose and throat.
Many people don't like a 22 for defense but its better than nothing and cheap to shoot to get proficient at point shooting.
is there any better 22 auto pocket gun than the beretta?
in terms of 22LR revolvers the S&W 317 at 11 oz and 10 rounds is a good choice.
I don't know if its a better 22, but the Walther P22 seems very popular. I just bought one myself but can't pick it up for a few days.
i have the sig mosquito. the first box of ammo i picked up was remington hollow point gold ( not sure if that is quite the exact type but im not at home right now). they shoot flawlessly with no ftf or fte with over 300 rnds. now the first time a buddy of mine tried to push federal ammo thru it. after the first shot it jammed. my mosquito does not like cheaper side of ammo.
Unfortunatly 22's seem to be some of the fussiest of firearms when it comes to ammo.
I want to get a semi-auto .22, but I'm stuck between 2 models...
Then of course there's always Advantage Arms .22lr Conversion Kit for my Glock 23....but I'm more for getting a whole other pistol.
my Ruger Charger 10/22 can be a little fussy with ammo also...
very fun weapon though
Flip, what kind of scope do you have on your charger and how much was it? I want to buy one of these but I don't know anything about mounting, setting up a scope. Can you help guide me in the right direction. I have a p22 and love it and I just want something a little different.
I had the Gunsmith mount it and Bore sight it for 100 yds
$50... easy !
my father has a Kimber Rimfire conversion for his Kimber Compact .45APC and we have a blast with it. has not had a hickup on us yet and we have put around 500 rds through it. not sure the make of ammo as he picked it up without me.
not a real fan of the slide not locking back when the last round is fired though, but I read that is typical for most conversion kits.
does anyone know if Beretta has a conversion for the PX4 Storm in 9mm or .40?
Have a NEOS U22 that will shoot anything I have put through it so far. About 2000 rounds later.
I have two Ruger Mk-II pistols and could not be happier with these pistols. Rugers are affordably priced, and function flawlessly. I've fired many other Ruger Mk's besides my own and have never had any FTF that were the fault of the pistol. I don't have any experience with the newer Mk-III and don't really care for all of the lawyer proofing they did to an otherwise great pistol, but it seems that most manufactures are jumping on this bandwagon. BTW you can still find Mk-II's out there for sale on the used market and they'er usually very reasonably priced, and you can occasionally find one new in the box too .
Just picked up a Highstandard Victor and plan on doing this tonight.
I have both a mkII and a neos I use both for small game my ruger has a 10" bull wich makes it easy on those small targets than the neos. But the neos was alot less money and I did not have to find a scope mount.
I have a Ruger Mk-II pistol with a bull barrel - it shoots great - had it about 25 years.
Also a Beretta model 70S in .22 that I've owned since 1963 - I've shot the heck out of it & still like to shoot it.
I have taken good care of it over the years, and have also had a lot of fun with it. If you ever want o purchase a reliable pistol in .22LR, this is one that you should consider. Of course, they are no longer in production, but they can be found with some fair regularity on sites like GunBroker.com.
My newest one is a Browning Buck Mark
Before adding a SIGHTMARK Sure Shot Red-Dot Reflex Sight
After adding a / SIGHTMARK Sure Shot Red-Dot Reflex Sight
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I love .22's. For years my standard weekly stress relief was Saturday morning at the range chewing through 200-300 rds of the stuff at 25 yards.
I've taught 5 kids, a wife (now 'ex'), and a girlfriend to shoot using a S&W 422 (6.5") and an old Ruger 10/22 that actually belonged to my grandfather. My lady's 7 yr old daughter will sit for hours with the old Chipmunk, single-shot, bolt-action .22lr.
The first post was a great primer for sorting out issues and getting down to the fun & learning. Some other things I've run into are:
- Ammo can change dramatically from lot to lot for .22LR. Doesn't seem to be as much of an issue with other calibers of factory stuff but 22 can vary quite a bit. Worst offender (in my experience): Federal.
- Clean that gun! Because most 22 semi-auto's are recoil-operated powder residue gets everywhere, This can be a real pain in the posterior. It is the most common cause (again, IME) of failure to feed and stovepipe jams. This means cleaning up the action too, not just the barrel.
Of course, the single-shot and the wheel guns avoid the feed issue altogether. My ex has an old Hi-Standard 9-shot wheel gun she inherited from her dad and it eats just about any ammo in the correct caliber.
With 3 kids currently in the house and the "let's go shooting" being one of the most popular outings (two teenage boys and that 7yr-old girl, go figure...) it also makes for a much more affordable day. I tend to stock anywhere from 1000-2000 at the house, which sounds like a lot but is really only 4-6 days at the range for the gang.
Since trigger squeeze, sight picture, breath control, etc. are all the same for the .22 as they are for the Super Blackhawk or Desert Eagle it is my favorite way to practice and build skill. I usually save the .44 Mag and the .45ACP to wrap up the day with so I carry the built-up skills into the recoil experience that you don't get with the .22.
Not trying to pick, but seriously dude? Read the manual and just......clean it. Any where there is gunk, (in the case of a new gun look for oil and wipe down everything) oil, grease, etc.
Just wanted to say a good word in this thread about the Phoenix Arms .22 autos. It's a value product. For $150 range including good factory support, you get a decent gun. Here are a couple pics of mine and a couple video links...
Phoenix Arms HP22A .22 LR Pistol Review
YouTube - No more problem with my Phoenix arms hp .22....part2
YouTube - Peter and his Phoenix Arms .22