View Poll Results: Glock, XD, M&P?
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01-03-2008, 07:11 AM
3 Xd's and counting
01-03-2008, 08:04 AM
For me it is the M&P hands down!!!!!
01-06-2008, 08:11 PM
i like XD Reasons
1. They always go bang (so do almost all guns????right)
2. Your do nopt hae to be a martian to like the grip
3. They are not a Glock
4. Despite what most people say, there are after market pieces, the differences is, they dont NEED them@!!!!
5. I like them
01-08-2008, 02:14 PM
The XD is an exact copy of glocks internals but with an extra saftey. Buts thats a good thing. also the xd's feel better in my large hands so i went with the XD. never shot the M P though so im not sure about that one.
01-08-2008, 03:10 PM
I'm XD all the way now. I have carried Glocks for many years, and they are outstanding weapons. I recently switched from G21SF to the XD45 for duty carry. I must say IMO is just a better designed weapon. I prefer 1911's over just about anything, and the XD feels as close to my 1911's as Im gonna get with polymer. The XD actually mimics my Browning HP in grip feel.
Agreed Glocks are hard to beat for reliabilty and durability. So far my xd has matched my 21. She has over 3000 rounds through her without a single malfunction. Parts availibility is not too much of an issue. Most of the parts that would fail I have purchased through Springfield, springs, pins etc. There aren't but about 10 or so parts you can't buy from them, but these are not things that would normally fail.
Agreed the aftermarket scene is strong for Glocks, but as stated before everybody changes things on them because they don't like something about them to begin with. For me sights are always changed on just about every pistol I own.
The firing mechanism is completly different in these two pistols. the only thing alike is the tab saftey on the triggers, and they are both striker fired. The Glock is at partial cock when a round is fired and the slide cycles. The striker travel is completed when you pull the trigger on the glock, it pulls the striker the remaning distance, then releases.
The XD striker is fully cocked upon firing a round and cycling the slide. The XD uses a system not unlike a 1911. It uses a trigger bar, and sear to release the striker instead of an external hammer. Yes the XD is fully cocked all the time just like any true single action pistol. When you pull the trigger on the XD there is very little resistance until you hit the sear. This is whay a trigger job on an XD makes alot of difference, it's just like doing one a 1911. I prefer the XD over my Glock as far as feel, and shootability. I can tear out the center of a B-27 target at 20 yards all day with both pistols, But I am alot faster with my XD.
The finish issue with the first XD's has been addressed, as all the New XD models, not just the 45 now have Melonite, just like the M&P. Im not convinced it is as good as the Glocks, but mine is holding up just as well so far. I don't think you can do bad with either of the three pistols. I know of problems that have occured with all three, and all three manufacturers stand behind thier products.
My personal opinion is that Glock reminds me of Colt. 20 some odd years ago they started the Polymer pistol revolution, but have not made much of an effort to stay cutting edge. Don't let the fact that Police officers carrying Glock is the tell tale sign they are the end all of great pistols. Most police officers buy Glocks, cause they have a great police discount, and all their friends have them. I just feel like Glock should really do something progressive again. Colt stayed the course by not updating their 1911 design, and look where that got them. Kimber, Wilson, Nighthawk, and a million others killed colt. Not saying the others are better, but they gave people a choice. Springfield, H&K, Beretta, and Rugers SR9 are giving people a choice. There is no reason why Glock can't maintain the current product line, and design something new. I personally would prolly go back to Glock if they would just make the 21 thinner and smaller. Untill then My XD45 will ride right along side of me. Sorry for running on so much.
01-09-2008, 06:18 AM
Originally Posted by Texaspoff
As far as the slide material goes what are the major difference between the Glock and the XD's slide make up?
01-09-2008, 10:45 AM
Im not shure what the exact makeup of the slide material is. I know both use a standard carbon type steel, but the makeup is unknown. Glock treats thier slides with tenifer, Springfield uses melonite. I know the two processes are close to the same, but thier are some differences in the chemicals used. There are many threads posted on XDtalk, and Glocktalk by people that have more knowledge about the process than I. I know Glock treats their barrels with the tenifer. Springfield does not melonite their barrels. They are standard black oxidized type finish. This would be the weakest point of the XD. Should rust develope on the new melonite pistols, the barrel and controls would be the where. By the same token, an officer I work with has had some small rust spots on the controls of his M&P 40. Should I ever have a problem with mine, I have a local contact here in Houston who does Molyresin,(Fort Bend Gun Works). He has done other pistols for me. I might also consider shipping back to Springfield for Armorycoat. Either way, if you take a small amount of care with an xd or smith for that matter, you shouldn't have any issues. As a side note, when I get a new pistol, I strip it, clean it, then coat the whole thing in Break Free CLP allowing it to sit overnight. Then wipe off the excess and reassemble. I even do this with Glocks. I have never had any rust issues with any of my pistols, and I live in Houston 40 miles form the coast. My XD is carried right next to my skin when off duty, and never had an issue.
01-11-2008, 12:08 PM
I beg your pardon? XDs have been on the market for quite a long time, long enough for early adopters to put 10,000 rounds and more through them. They're gaining popularity now as the price is favorable to Glock and as the Glock is falling out of vogue (seen one, seen em all, and many if not most models are not yet California-approved).
Originally Posted by Vom Kriege
M&P is newer than either, but made by a proven arms manufacturer, one of the oldest. I've fired them; they're excellent pistols once broken in (the trigger's a little on the rough side for the first 4-500 rounds; Glocks take just as long to break in).
I think any of the three would be an excellent range and defense weapon; it all comes down to how they feel and how you fire them.
01-19-2008, 02:02 PM
I can only choose between the glock and the xd. I have not had the pleasure of shooting the m&p as of yet. I have to choose the xd . for me it fits my hand better and the way I hit with the xd is far better then the glock. I'm sure they are all fine guns and it's the one that fits you best that should make the difference..
01-19-2008, 02:23 PM
after a few trips to the range and renting the xd the m&p and several glocks ive decided to buy an M&P 45 next friday they all shot great but I just liked the feel of the M&P in my hands.
01-19-2008, 07:36 PM
MP for me........
There's really not much bad to say about the MP. I have a full sized MP 40 and a 9mm compact. They are easy to break down and re-assemble when cleaning, mine have been very dependable, they are very accurate, they look nice (for a polymer), and the ergonomics are perfect for me. It seems to jump into your hand and when you push it out it falls easily on target. And then there's the lifetime, no BS, warranty by S & W to consider.
My three favorite shooting hand guns are my two MP's and my CZ 75B. The CZ is a very nice gun to shoot but the MP's just feel better in my hand and considering barrel length, they are just as accurate.
01-19-2008, 07:50 PM
I just bought an M&Pc 9mm and love the way it shoots. I even like it better than my P99 QA. The trigger is much nicer on the M&P. I think I'll keep them both.
01-19-2008, 08:36 PM
Well, I own two of the above mentioned pistols. I have a Glock 21 .45 and a M&P 45........ Now, I have been a Glock man for years. However, that changed with the purchase of the M&P 45. The M&P is balanced better and feels better in my hand.
01-20-2008, 05:39 PM
How about an HK
01-20-2008, 11:42 PM
That M&P 45 I think I read in that hanguns mag I have they stated something to the affect that it was the best semi-auto S&W has ever made.. or something that flattering. I'd lean much more towards the M&P personally.. It remains on my short list if my lofty ideas of a Sig CPO don't pan out. I'm still all over the place while I get my budget together though.
Originally Posted by ICM856
01-21-2008, 11:36 AM
which one of these has the grip angle closest to the 1911?
01-21-2008, 11:38 AM
I'm guessing the M&P.. The glock grip angle as a good bit more than a 1911.. The XD might even be closer or about the same.
01-22-2008, 03:18 AM
I second that.
Originally Posted by Vom Kriege
01-30-2008, 01:37 PM
Hi from Portugal!
I vote glock thatīs the most popular handgun around here.
XDīs and MPīs are almost inexistants.
Why donīt mention the 24/7 or Steyr M series?
01-30-2008, 03:20 PM
The XD's Grip angle was taken from the 1911, thats one of the reasons I liked it so much.
Originally Posted by hideit
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