All tests done by Glock aside...

Until someone can prove to me their M&P or XD can stand being thrown from an airplane at very low altitude onto rough/dry terrain, thrown onto concrete from the rooftop of a house, shot and hit with a .22 pistol, immersed in salt water overnight, completely filled with sugar sand, and all while loaded and firing when the trigger is pulled the first time, I'm sticking with Glock. Don't believe me, head to the GlockTalk.com forums. There's a subcompact Glock in my future for a carry gun, unless I find a gunsmith who can work on a Kahr (slim chance, it seems).

My family's G17 has been through some rough times too, and I haven't encountered a weapon more dependable weapon yet. Glocks are absolutely safe unless the trigger is pulled, and if you don't believe it then strip one down and take a peek. Seeing is believing.


-B

Originally Posted by BAC

All tests done by Glock aside...

Until someone can prove to me their M&P or XD can stand being thrown from an airplane at very low altitude onto rough/dry terrain, thrown onto concrete from the rooftop of a house, shot and hit with a .22 pistol, immersed in salt water overnight, completely filled with sugar sand, and all while loaded and firing when the trigger is pulled the first time, I'm sticking with Glock. Don't believe me, head to the GlockTalk.com forums. There's a subcompact Glock in my future for a carry gun, unless I find a gunsmith who can work on a Kahr (slim chance, it seems).

My family's G17 has been through some rough times too, and I haven't encountered a weapon more dependable weapon yet. Glocks are absolutely safe unless the trigger is pulled, and if you don't believe it then strip one down and take a peek. Seeing is believing.




-B

Hope I never buy a used gun from you!

Originally Posted by BAC

All tests done by Glock aside...

Until someone can prove to me their M&P or XD can stand being thrown from an airplane at very low altitude onto rough/dry terrain, thrown onto concrete from the rooftop of a house, shot and hit with a .22 pistol, immersed in salt water overnight, completely filled with sugar sand, and all while loaded and firing when the trigger is pulled the first time, I'm sticking with Glock. Don't believe me, head to the GlockTalk.com forums. There's a subcompact Glock in my future for a carry gun, unless I find a gunsmith who can work on a Kahr (slim chance, it seems).

My family's G17 has been through some rough times too, and I haven't encountered a weapon more dependable weapon yet. Glocks are absolutely safe unless the trigger is pulled, and if you don't believe it then strip one down and take a peek. Seeing is believing.


-B

The last time I followed my pistol out the door of a low flying airplane it didn't matter if it worked when we reached the ground. You must lead one hell of a life style.

Ahem.

First, I will never sell a gun. That's like suggesting I'd sell a significant other! So no worries about buying any used guns from me.

Second... the fellow who did those experiments did so on the full-sized .45 model (G19?), but wasn't me. The most beat-up our ol' G17's been is tossed, dropped, knocked, etc., on concrete. Didn't even scratch paint, actually... But the plane thing was just awesome (he recorded it on video).

However, I'll add my own report on such doings when I finally have the cash on hand to make that subcompact Glock purchase. Let the fun begin!


-B

Originally Posted by stupidman

It seems like these 3 are the top competitors in their category.( pre-cocked striker fire). Glock of course beening the top dog for many years and then the XD came along and stole a little bit of its thunder. And then the M&P came along and stole some more. It seems like we have a ton of Walther(Myself included) people here but this forum seems pretty unbiased for the most part. So I was wondering which one of these you people would prefer.

So which is it?

I know for me it's the M&P. I got rid of my Glock and my XD when I got the M&P. It fits me perfectly and shoots better for me than ether of the two. especially Glocks, I never really could hit anything very well with Glocks.

I would have put the Walther also but I put the Walther is a different category because it's DA/SA.

All three are great guns. The glock of course changed everything in the gun world but for me it would have to be the xd. It just fits my hand the best and I like the trigger the best out of all three. If you were to buy any one of the three I beleive it would be money well spent.

"There is no one to protect us. We must take personal safety into our own hands. While politicans attempt to control the masses, ultimately, we must remember that self-defense is not a legal right it is a human right."

We are Glock.
Resistance is futile.
You will be assimilated.

All your XDs are belong to us.

M&P???
M&P???
We don't need no steeeenk'in M&P!!!!

I have a XD .40 4in standard and a m&p .40 compact. love them both for full size i would not trade my XD for anything and for compact i would not trade for anything. both very smoth shooting guns would recomend to anyone even beginners.

I voted for Glock, for all the reasons previously listed. However, I sold my G22 to buy a S&W MP40 and I love this gun. Ask me again in 6 months and I will probably vote for the MP. I just can't get past the looks of the XD's.

I was somewhat interested in the XD platform, until I fould out Springfield won't sell private owners any parts at all for the gun. Any failures and the gun has to go back to Springfield.

I've owned several glocks, in pretty much every caliber except GAP, and they just don't do much for me.

I now have the M&P in 9mm, and I love it.

Originally Posted by BAC

Until someone can prove to me their M&P or XD can stand being thrown from an airplane at very low altitude onto rough/dry terrain, thrown onto concrete from the rooftop of a house, shot and hit with a .22 pistol, immersed in salt water overnight, completely filled with sugar sand, and all while loaded and firing when the trigger is pulled the first time, I'm sticking with Glock.

Does this happen alot with your guns?

If i'm ever thrown out of an airplane at low altitude, i suspect the ability of my gun to fire wont matter... given that I'll have a few broken bones and possibly unable to move.

(BTW, i voted Glock. I prefer the size and ergonomics. Its ability to survive at the bottom of the pacific ocean is of much lesser concern, as i dont do much shooting at the bottom of the ocean.)

thorn

BAC: i hope you dont treat your glock that rough! you know bad things can happen...


Example #1: They can explode




Example #2: They can crack



I believe you said:

Glocks are absolutely safe unless the trigger is pulled

nothing is perfect and i just dont want you to think they are indestructible. please be careful how you treat a loaded gun. you never know who else might be within the range of your bullets.

I like Glocks and carry one in my civilian life. But I'm not sure how relevant all the Glock torture tests are, especially for a gun carried by a civilian. Covering it in lint and not lubing it for six months is probably a more realistic test.

Hell, I bet my M4 and M9 would both break under that kind of silly abuse. Yet somehow they manage to work fine here in Afghanistan. Go figure.

Glock. Im not a springfield or a mp man what so ever. Glock "Perfection".

Speaking only for myself, the most "KABOOMS" I hear about are with Glocks.

XD40 sucompact abd XC45 5"Tactical Compact.
I hate to put them down.

XD for me.
I'm as well a major Walther P99 fan.

sab2alpha

Let me try this one more time.
XD40 Subcompact and an XD45 5" Tactical Compact.

Yea, thats what I meant.

sab2alpha

Out of the three it would be the XD. I like Glocks but the XD feels better in my hand. I also like the extra features the XD's have.

I voted for Glock. For the factory support, ease to find accessories, and the fact that they are tested to the limits. Give the XD a few years, and I might change my reasoning there. But I still prefer the Glock to the XD i have fired.
If I was more familiar with the XD I might feel different too. But trying to not be partial without really good reasoning, I still vote Glock.

Functionality, cost, support. Glock has it.
It's an ugly tool, but I trust it.

Hello new to the forum. I voted for the XD only because thats all that I currently own XD45

I own two glocks but I would buy the other two two in a heartbeat if
I had the need.The other two mimic my glocks so I say my gun dollars will
be spent in another area.

Originally Posted by rasgun

BAC: i hope you dont treat your glock that rough! you know bad things can happen...


Example #1: They can explode

That will buff right out.

I took my 4"XD45 to the range on Friday... damn I love that gun. Very accurate.

I have all three, XD Tactical 9mm, M&P 45, and Glock 22 40,357 Sig,9MM. XD & M&P are very close, XD 1st I guess, Glock a distant 3rd..........

I would say the Glock over the others. I've owned/carried Glocks and I've also shot the others. Not taking anything away from the M&P and XD but, I'd rely on the Glock most.
As long as its reliable, accurate, and effective everytime its called, thats all the test I need.