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    My ears are burnin', is someone talking about me in here??

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    Wink .380's

    Here is a picture of one of the best. It's a Colt Government .380. They are the best shooting .380 there is IMHO. They don't make them anymore but they do show up at gun shows every now and then. This is my wifes gun and she is dead on with this one.

    Colt Government Mark IV .380

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    Quote Originally Posted by spacedoggy View Post
    I think you would be better off throwing a snowball. I would only use a 380 as a back up not a primary. OK I'm ready for it Scooter.
    Sorry but the snowball idea didnít work. I made a holster for it but had to stay outside because it kept melting when I came inside. Darn! Back to the drawing board.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scooter View Post
    My ears are burnin', is someone talking about me in here??
    Ya I was putting your .380 down and I was ready for you to put me in my place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spacedoggy View Post
    Ya I was putting your .380 down and I was ready for you to put me in my place.
    Best response I could make is see the post just before your last one
    ANY caliber is better than your fists (or a snowball).Hmmmmmmm bringin' snowballs to a gunfight?????)

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    Quote Originally Posted by scooter View Post
    Best response I could make is see the post just before your last one
    ANY caliber is better than your fists (or a snowball).Hmmmmmmm bringin' snowballs to a gunfight?????)
    Ya but I use yellow snow balls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tnoisaw View Post
    Ya but I use yellow snow balls.
    Use the yellow snowballs and they will run.

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    I don't know much about snowballs, but I know the 84FS is the double-stacked 13rd variation of the 9mmK Cheetah, whereas the 85FS is the single-stacked 8rd variation. Cheers.

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    I'm kinda hunting a CS9, myself. Seems like a pretty good-sized 9mm.

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    I carry a resprung polish p-64

    I carry the polish p-64 resprung to a sixteen pound double action trigger pull.
    the 9x18 round has decent power and the gun is a flawless shooter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pap1105 View Post
    i am looking for advise for .380 as a concealed carry weapon. i want it thin and reliable.
    The Feburary issue of Guns and Ammo has a write up on The Beretta Cheetah .380. Hard hitting little gun. If you don't mind the recoil which I didn't but the gun was for the wife and she hated it.

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    I would go with . . . . wait for it . . . . the PPK.

    But joking aside. .380ACP is a adequate defense caliber, especially with modern ammunition. The problem with most people when they purchase a pistol for self protection, it that they do not practice enough to be efficient with it. They buy it, run a box through it, and that's about it. Flesh wounds are not effective and I have seen it many times at the range when that is good enough for people. As long as they hit the paper, their happy. What you do at the range translates to the real world. Go for the gate of the eyes, the sternum, and the pelvis . . . effective targets.

    Argue about caliber all you want, it all comes down to shot placement and how much damage is done.

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    Amen on that. Couldn't agree more J.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baldy View Post
    Amen on that. Couldn't agree more J.
    x3 on that

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    For a pocket gun, I would go with a Kel-tec. It's the lightest and most unobtrusive of all the guns mentioned in this thread.

    I would also not be quick to discount a smith and wesson airweight J-frame in .38spl+p. I tried a lot of deep concealment guns and for pocket carry....the P3At and S&W637 airweight are my choices.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jenglish View Post
    I would go with . . . . wait for it . . . . the PPK.

    But joking aside. .380ACP is a adequate defense caliber, especially with modern ammunition. The problem with most people when they purchase a pistol for self protection, it that they do not practice enough to be efficient with it. They buy it, run a box through it, and that's about it. Flesh wounds are not effective and I have seen it many times at the range when that is good enough for people. As long as they hit the paper, their happy. What you do at the range translates to the real world. Go for the gate of the eyes, the sternum, and the pelvis . . . effective targets.

    Argue about caliber all you want, it all comes down to shot placement and how much damage is done.
    I agree completely. And I think the PPk has a lot going for it. I'd recommend the blued version as opposed to the stainless, simply because of the weight issue. The stainless sits in your pocket like a big chunk of lead.

    For me, it's easy to keep the .380 on target, and put the shots where they need to go. Very controllable round. I don't ever feel inadequately armed with one.

    Along those same lines, the Sig 232 is a pretty good choice. It's lighter than the PPK, though a bit longer and taller.

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    Is there a significant difference it the weight of a stainless vs carbon steel handgun? I wouldn't have thought so, they both weigh about 490lbs/cf or so.

    Perhaps they put more steel in the stainless version?

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    No, they should be the same, more or less. Only when U see an alloy gun will it be lighter...

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    reply to advice

    Quote Originally Posted by pap1105 View Post
    i am looking for advise for .380 as a concealed carry weapon. i want it thin and reliable.
    just bought a bersa .380 duo tone . 50 rounds of hardball no problems. thanks for your advise.

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    Good luck with it.


    And throw some pics up if you get a chance.

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