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      General question: Slide Auto Forward on Reloading

      So I'm at the range today had 3 of my guns with me , I walk up with the slide locked opened, slam a mg into the Taurus and then the slide slms shout loads the gun for me . My question is this normal, I went home and loaded some snap caps in my xd9, and my M&P40, no matter how hard I slam a mag in either one of these 2 guns neither one released the slide. So I loaded the Taurus and tried that one again, not every time but quite often the slide would release. I just wondering if this is normal for a gun to do this.

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      Depends on the gun. I've had a number of Bersa 380's that will consistently do that. Bersa fans say it's supposed to do that. I'm not so sure. I think it's more a function of the design of the slide catch and how secure it is. I have several Rugers and S+W's that have never done that. Design issue, imo. As long as the gun doesn't fire when you do that, if you can expect it you will learn to deal with it that way.

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      Its called "auto forward" it happens.

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      I guess it's back to qualty I was looking at the lock on the Taurus and I'm suprised it even holds it open. But the gun did shoot and I even hit the side of a barn with it. I really wasn't tring to bash the gun this time I never did have it happen with my other guns. So I was just asking if it does happen from time to time.

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      Quote Originally Posted by joepolo View Post
      I guess it's back to qualty I was looking at the lock on the Taurus and I'm suprised it even holds it open. But the gun did shoot and I even hit the side of a barn with it.
      Many quality guns auto forward.

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      Um, Jean and I own three M1911s (one's a shortie), one Star PD, and one Chinese-made Tokarev, all having slide-stop levers. (We have others, but without slide stops.)
      I don't consider the last two of the pistols I've listed as being of "high-quality."
      Yet none of them will "auto forward" when a magazine is slammed home.

      I know that there are old-fashion European pistols which were designed to "auto-forward," but I believe that modern guns are not designed to do that.
      For one thing, it seems to me to be unsafe, unless it's part of the normal operating features. Indeed, one member of this forum has reported that he lost a bit of palm skin when a pistol unexpectedly went into "auto-forward" mode.

      Me? I believe it to be a defect.
      Your mileage may vary.

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      Berettas, Glocks, Smith M&Ps and others have the ability to auto forward.

      Im not going to argue semantics about it but trying to diss Taurus for a feature (desired or not as I didn't build the darn things and no one asked me about it) that other quality pistols have is kind of lame.

      Taurus has enough issues on their own.

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      thumbnail_20160512_075633.jpgthumbnail_20160512_075805.jpg Not sure it'll work I'm trying to load some pictures to show the quality difference between 2 guns. Ok I guess it worked, none of my other firearms does this S&W, Sig, Springfield and they all look similar to the xd I showed. The Taurus seems like it barely has a edge to lock it back. So I'll go with the quality of the gun, I guess back to you get what you pay for. The gun does shoot, it will hit what you aim at, if it's all you could afford then I guess it's better than nothing.

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      https://youtu.be/QjdIT8kdRQo

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      Ok so I was going to say BS but I'm wrong. I have a full size M&P 40 so I went and put some caps in it and tried it. Well I must say it does auto load almost every time. Still not saying Taurus has good quality, but this does happen with other guns.
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      Quote Originally Posted by joepolo View Post
      Ok so I was going to say BS but I'm wrong. I have a full size M&P 40 so I went and put some caps in it and tried it. Well I must say it does auto load almost every time. Still not saying Taurus has good quality, but this does happen with other guns.
      Yeah...it does.

      Sig, CZ, Glock, S&W, HK, and others can all do this.

      Again, while Taurus has issues, this isn't a "Taurus problem"


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      Just as a point of reference re: slide stop notches.



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      Even that slide lock grove looks like it'll hold, I'll have to get a better pic of the G2, it hardly has a groove to lock back. I'm not saying it's a problem just talking about the quality of some cheaper guns, they just aren't machined as good as some of the higher priced ones. My only question was, is it safe and I now know it is, just have to make sure I don't slam them in when I'm in the house,Don't need any extra holes in my walls. HaHaHa

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      Close up that does look to be on the jankey side, but on par for what I would expect from Taurus.

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      Yep it's like they never finished machining it. I guess I'll have to get the file out and try to even it out.

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      I used to have a G. I. surplus Government Model. It would close on reloading if I were enthusiastic about jamming the magazine home. If I were sedate it wouldn't. That particular pistol was stolen and in time I have several others. Two or three are G.I. surplus and two or three are commercial. I don't recall any of them closing.

      Either way, I don't think it's a big deal. Keep the pistol in a proper direction when loading and finger off trigger. No other functions are involved.

      Similar, but not the same problem, one of my collectables (not a .45 and not identified at this point) will sometimes fire a round when dropping the magazine. It's an old gun and the sear needs replaced; which is in progress. Two different problems and treated rather differently. As always, be careful.

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      Quote Originally Posted by VAMarine View Post
      Berettas, Glocks, Smith M&Ps and others have the ability to auto forward.

      Im not going to argue semantics about it but trying to diss Taurus for a feature (desired or not as I didn't build the darn things and no one asked me about it) that other quality pistols have is kind of lame.

      Taurus has enough issues on their own.

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      I've seen H+K's and Sigs do this as well. If your pistol does it everytime learn to use it to your advantage.

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      Thanks for all the info. That's the way I'll be seeing it as a little advantage. I normally don't slam my mags in , just happen this time I did, so I learned from it, to me that's a good thing to be able to learn something new. See old dogs could learn new tricks.

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      Is there a reason for being "aggressive" with the loading of a magazine? The only places I've ever seen it do any good is on TV and the movies. Smooth and firm is what has always worked for me. You are dealing with springs and they are supposed to move. Slamming a mag home might disrupt the way the ammo is distributed. The slide stop/release is spring loaded and weighted toward the parts you touch to use it. The magazine lock is spring loaded and it may not seat. Other than being tacticool what purpose are you serving?

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