I have to say that I perfer Plastic guns over all metal ones. I think they are better looking, lighter and hold more ammo.
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I have to say that I perfer Plastic guns over all metal ones. I think they are better looking, lighter and hold more ammo.
There is nothing that can compare to a fine crafted gun made out of steel and wood. The true craftmans the gunsmith is a dieing breed as we have more parts replacers than anything. It's kind of like comparing a Rolex to a Time-X. There is nothing wrong with plastic and I have one, but please make mine steel and wood.
Ya know - I used to feel the same way - I always preferred metal guns. I had my 1911s. Loved my Beretta 92.
Now, however, ALL of my guns are polymer. Everyone here knows how I feel about the Walther P99 A/S - love it more than a 1911.
Have 2 P99s and a SW99, a HK USP compact, a Glock 34, a Keltec 32 and now a PS90 carbine. ALL are polymer. So, guess I'm a plastic fan now :p
I voted for metal. Until I get my 5 7 out from its prison of wrapping paper! I still carry my beloved Kimber TLE II.
I like my P99. It's a fine tool. Looks pretty good too.
There's nothing like fine wood and blued steel though. That's craftmanship.
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Originally Posted by MLB
Well, I can hardly believe it myuself - for years, I said - "Not a polymer fan."
But over time - the guns I liked more and more were polymer. So, polymer city for me, I guess :p
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My name is Shipwreck, and I'm a plastic gun-a-holic.... :p
I have several plastic but they just don't feel right in my hand. I guess 30+ years of 1911a1s or my Double Eagle for 15 years old habits are to hard to break.
Your hard chromed P99s look a bit like my Ti P99.
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That last gadget of yours is something else. It looks a bit like a pogo stick :cool: How does she shoot?
It's not that I don't like plastic. I just haven't found one I liked.
Tupperware is for keeping your sandwich fresh till lunchtime:mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
There are a lot of advantages to plastic, I have a lot of plastic guns, but still I prefer steel.
I think plastic is more practical, so that's what I prefer. It's lighter, generally less expensive to produce, and just as durable if not moreso than metal. However, guns are basically just tools to me, and I don't really have an emotional attachment to any of them.
I generally carry Glocks and/or a P3AT. The 1911 lives in the safe, and I don't really care for the Beretta 92 even though I have been carrying and shooting it lately because of the impending deployment.
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Originally Posted by Mike Barham at Galco
On the expense point, I'd agree that it is likely less expensive to produce, but I'm surprised that I don't find a corresponding lower sale price. $600 for a plastic framed gun gets to me I guess :mrgreen:
I agree w/ ya there - the argument about the R&D costs being the reason doesn't hold up - otherwise the metal guns would be even higher priced.Quote:
Originally Posted by MLB
My PS90 was about $500 over priced, IMHO.
Do you think they will ever make a plastic Revolvers?? Not that I would run out and buy and could it work just making the frame plastic???
Other than the grip, I don't see how it could be done.
I suppose they could come up with plastic barrel shrouds, sort of like what Taurus and S&W have been doing with metal.
I am a Glock guy. I can buy a NIB Glock here in AZ for $459. The only really good metal-framed autos I can get for that price are Beretta 92FS (because they are on close-out) and the CZ75. I certainly can't even touch a SIG for anywhere close to that price (not that I want one).
The Springfield XD is also more reasonably priced than most metal-framed guns, and it is a pretty decent pistol. With HK and Walther, I think you paying a lot for the rollmark. And don't get me started about that FN Five-seveN! :rolleyes:
I think most 1911s are ridiculously overpriced for what you get, at least in terms of a fighting pistol. Ditto the Browning P35. The HKP7 is a great pistol, but I don't think it's quite worth $1500.
I currently don't own any plasitic guns but still like them and think there is definately a place for them. Like Mike said, they are tools more than treasures. All that being said, I really like my steel and wood guns best. It boils down to what you're using them for. Take it easy on my P7, MIke........
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It's been done. Just experimentally.Quote:
Originally Posted by spacedoggy
Like the Rooskie MP 412 Rex.
It may have had some potential.
I voted for plastic but I like both. A well made metal gun with wood grips is really hard to beat for feel but I shoot my Glocks more than any of my other guns, steel included. One thing I've noticed coming from Iowa with the cold winters and hot summers there, polymer frames tend to be warmer than steel in the winter and cooler in the summer. Our local IPSC group shoots every month rain or shine. In the middle of winter when it might be 0 or lower, the polymer frames feel noticeably warmer than the steel frames. Not a big factor but just something I've noticed.
I voted plastic mainly because of my Glock- I didn’t want to make it angry. If you are talking the looks department I would say metal wins hands down. My Glock got hit with an ugly bullet but it works every time so what can I say. I would like a beautiful 1911. Ohhh, Ahhhh.
This got me thinking. As a plumber who lived in Iowa (Iowa City area) I know that PVC expands and contracts quit a bit with temperature differences. Does this happen with polymer frames? Ummm?Quote:
Originally Posted by martial_field
Maybe a tiny bit, but most of the polymer guns have been tested aat extreme temp ranges. I've seen some manuals give U the temp info before...
You need a "Both" option. I have both and like both and don't prefer one over the other--yet.