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    Seeing prices drop

    I'm starting to see prices drop significantly on the S&W M&P Shield and Bodyguard. Wonder why?

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    I think it's because so many people bought them during the last panic based on TV shows on Sportsmans Channel and Outdoors Channel and the like, and now need the money. Our local buy-sell pages are chock full of ARs that everyone had-to-have, and now they have to have some money. The panic fears never really happened except in 22LR buying.

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    That and competition drives prices down. They are competing for the same market and now with the Glock 43 I am sure they will have to lower their price to compete with S&W and Ruger.

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    I think it's in anticipation of the G43 release. Save money by going with the reduced price models or spend more on the shiny new G43.... some with go Glock to have a Glock while others will seek out the best value for their hard earned cash.

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    Got to beat that competition!

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    I don't think anybody is waiting around for any vaunted Glock-Ganything. My experience at our local range is where it used to be fairly low use, it's now much fuller of lots of young kids buying whatever they can afford. They watch an episode of 3-gun competition and want to run out and do that with whatever they have. And with the rise in concealed and open carry laws, they all think they need a carry gun and the S&W's are readily available. Especially in AR's. They are mostly untrained, ignorant of most range rules, and just shoot thru a couple hundred rounds of something to pat themselves on the back.

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    Oh there will be plenty waiting around to see the G43, but I suspect you're right about the young folks buying what they can afford. S&Ws are quality firearms at a reasonable price, and anyone who buys one at this lowered price is getting a fantastic value.
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    Could the Ruger LC9-S have anything to do with it?

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    I'll think the same. The wheel does not stop and other manufacturer do the same. Taurus with the slim line. For many a alternative to the little S&W. Walthers PPS and the new CCP with reduced recoil making for people that fear heavy slide pulls and recoil of a full 9mm Para reachable.
    And sure the Glock 43 is now more from interest. Glockist must have it the same that I have to have a CCP from Walther.

    The one that want a Chevy Malibu got already one, if Chevy want to sell the Malibu all over again, they have to change the style, size and equipment and the Malibu deals start all over again. Or they have to lower the prize tag so others get attracted to it that don't really need one in that size.

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    If Glock were willing to sell the G43 as a "loss leader" - in other words, if they were willing to sell the G43 for well under $400, they could probably shut down the assembly lines for most of their competitors in the mini 9mm arena (assuming, of course that it is as good as the G42). Their only legitimate competitor would be the XDs, because they could lower their own prices enough to remain competitive, without reducing quality. It's not about which is the best gun - it's about which is the best value for the money. The Shield has already reduced the quality to sell for less, and has nowhere to go, without also becoming a "loss leader."

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    The G43's biggest competition is probably the Kahr CM9 for quality and price in the single stack 9mm subcompact market.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TAPnRACK View Post
    The G43's biggest competition is probably the Kahr CM9 for quality and price in the single stack 9mm subcompact market.
    Hummm...
    That depends very on whom you will ask. I would answer that with Walthers PPS and and ask you what the heck is a what?, - a CM9? Please don't tell me that Walthers PPS does not have enough quality and value. Actually Walthers PPS takes everyting up front that a Glock 43 will become. Its all about bias and brand names.

    When it comes to Glock you will have biased people in both directions. For a Glockist is Glock more than a gun, it is a religion. For others is Glock the incarnated devil. It's very hard to find a fair judgement when Glock is involved.
    The Glock 43 is only for a Glock fan from interest. The marked was already covered from all directions and from all manufacturers. Glock comes very late into the game. The once that want a little gun in that size have now already one because there are many out there. Glock 43? Well - Glock fans will buy it and for them is the gun made. Or what can a Glock 43 do better than a PPS?

    The Shield had is issues but is a very nice little gun. The market is settled on it. Who wanted a Shield has now already one. The question is only if S&W should really lower prize and quality on a great gun and sacrifice the gun to cheap sells. That is all.

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    You've never heard of Kahr?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TAPnRACK View Post
    The G43's biggest competition is probably the Kahr CM9 for quality and price in the single stack 9mm subcompact market.
    I consider the PM-9/CM-9 in a different class, since it's even smaller than the Glock 43 sized guns. It is about as small as it's possible to make a 9x19. I wish it fit my hand better. I had a PM-9 that was very reliable, but it was just too small. The CW-9/P-9/K-9 are the same size as the Shield or XDs, which I think will also be very close to the G43, based on published dimensions.

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    It is probably because demand has leveled off as most people who want a hand gun have already bought it. The things don't wear out or go bad with age and unless you are a collector you only need 1, 2 at the most. When I bought my full size M&P 9 2 years ago, it was hit or miss on finding the hand gun one was looking for. Today there are a lot more choices and newer models are coming out daily.

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