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    PT845 - problem inserting clip

    I think this more of a general issue instead of a Taurus issue, that's why it's here instead of the Taurus sub-forum. I am sort of a newbie at this so forgive my ignorance if i am wrong.

    I recently bought my Taurus PT845 and the two clips that came with the gun work fine, no problems inserting or releasing them. I ran 200 rounds through a few weeks ago and I had no problems at all. Ran like a champ.

    I bought a new clip online at Ammoclip.com, this new clip does not like to be inserted. It's stiff and hangs up with about 3/4" sticking out. The mag release will be pushed out and be loose. If I put the slide back I can get it in and out. It does this empty or full. The original clips still work fine. It's a Taurus branded mag with the only difference being two extra smaller holes in it. One near the catch and another near the base.

    Does anyone have an idea what is causing this? Attached is a picture, the one one the right is the one that came with it.


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    The picture may be deceiving me, but the left one looks wider at the end. Have you physically measured them?
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    Very likely you purchased poorly made out of spec after market magazines. Been there done that and learned that I "only" purchase factory or Mecgar magazines. There are a few others, but that's the way I roll. Throw them away and learn from the lesson that many of us have learned. I remember buying no name after market mags at a gun show. Got them home and realized they looked like someone welded them in a home garage. Feed lips would let rounds fly out the top, couldn't fully load them, out of spec and the things didn't fit properly. I threw them away and learned my lesson the hard way.
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    Thing is, it came on a Taurus backer. It has the same markers as the others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kjcman View Post
    Thing is, it came on a Taurus backer. It has the same markers as the others.

    What are the name brand of the magazines? What's a Taurus Backer? You may want to consider contacting the vendor you purchased them from.

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    It's a Taurus magazine. Looks to be Taurus made. It has a Taurus part number on the package so I don't think it is an aftermarket.

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    Not trying to be rude, but I would consider selling or trading this gun in on something better. Often, with Taurus, you will start to run into problems the more you shoot them. This isn't always the case, but the guns are not all that well made compared to some other professional grade guns like Beretta, Sig, HK, Glock, S&W, etc.

    If you want to hang on to the PT845, I would follow denner's advice and purchase only factory magazines. Good luck with it!

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    Double checked the magazines package. It is a factory mag. I really don't think it is a problem with the gun. My other two mags fit fine and release with no issue. I am thinking it's more of a combination of new gun and new clip. I'm just wondering if someone else has had this problem as well. I am going to call Taurus tomorrow and see what they has to say on it.

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    They definately do not have the same finish. The one on the right is missing the witness whole under the cutout and by that long mark looks to be struggling to properly fit in your magwell. I dunno. If it's in fact a Taurus magazine it's definately not the same type as the one on the left.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kjcman View Post
    Double checked the magazines package. It is a factory mag. I really don't think it is a problem with the gun. My other two mags fit fine and release with no issue. I am thinking it's more of a combination of new gun and new clip. I'm just wondering if someone else has had this problem as well. I am going to call Taurus tomorrow and see what they has to say on it.
    Good call, I agree it's those new mags that are the problem and out of spec. Where did you buy them?

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    I got it at ammoclip.com. Here is the interesting thing, to me at least. The one on the right is the one that came with the gun and fits fine. It's the one on the left that has problems.

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    What did you discover after you measured them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kjcman View Post
    Double checked the magazines package. It is a factory mag. I really don't think it is a problem with the gun. My other two mags fit fine and release with no issue. I am thinking it's more of a combination of new gun and new clip. I'm just wondering if someone else has had this problem as well. I am going to call Taurus tomorrow and see what they has to say on it.
    The magazine may have come in a Taurus package, the picture on the web site could even be a real Taurus magazine. However it does not look like the one you bought. It's pretty easy to see you did not buy a real Taurus magazine. Taurus can not and probably will not help you. Take it up with the company passing off fake factory magazines as real ones.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kjcman View Post
    I got it at ammoclip.com. Here is the interesting thing, to me at least. The one on the right is the one that came with the gun and fits fine. It's the one on the left that has problems.
    My bad, I didn't read your post close enough.

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    I haven't measured them yet. Need to get something fine enough to use. A ruler isn't that accurate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glock37 View Post
    The magazine may have come in a Taurus package, the picture on the web site could even be a real Taurus magazine. However it does not look like the one you bought. It's pretty easy to see you did not buy a real Taurus magazine. Taurus can not and probably will not help you. Take it up with the company passing off fake factory magazines as real ones.
    Yes, I visited the website. It goes on with a very, very, long summation titled "Magazine Fitting" about how magazines purchased from them may not fit and may need fitting, but if altered can't be returned?

    "A competent local gunsmith should be able to fit the magazine to the gun."

    "Guns vary and so do magazines from one production run to another. Any new or used magazine may need to be fitted to the gun."

    I dunno? May be factory mags, may be best to call Taurus and ask them if they come with witness holes beneath the cut out and your issue.

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    The magazine on the left in the picture is different from the one on the right:
    I can see in the photo that the leftmost one is wider at the feed lips than is the rightmost one. Use a caliper micrometer, and measure then.
    I can't tell without measuring, but the magazine-catch hole in the left magazine is a bit smaller than that of the right magazine.

    Do not trouble yourself with "fitting" a magazine that is obviously incorrect.
    Instead, send it back for a full refund.

    Next step? Buy a better-made magazine. Won't Taurus sell you one?

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    Steve, I believe it is a Taurus brand mag. It came on in a Taurus branded package although Taurus does not carry those mags in stock any more. I did get it from a Dealer, but it is entirely possible that it's a fake. I'm going to contact the Ammoclip.com and see what they say today.

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    However that is actually what I don't like on Taurus products. The Magazines are just not there and a gun with only 1 or if someone is very lucky 2 working clips is no gun at all.

    A gun, any gun from any manufacturer has to have at minimum 2 Magazines if you want to store it for some collection purposes.
    If you want to use it as a range gun you need minimum 4 Magazines, better is 6.
    If you chose the gun as an EDC than you need at least 6 Magazines and 300 rounds Target and 150 defensive ammo to shoot through it, using all clips to make sure they cycle really reliably through before you can start to think about carrying the gun on a daily base.

    That is for example the reason I didn’t check the PT 709 out. That thing comes with only one, uno, eins, jedan clip and getting a second clip is testing your capability and willingness to suffer. Taurus for sure let you suffer and wait, no doubt.
    The neighbor, not patient enough and after 2 months waiting, bought than clips from e-bay, paid 50 Dollar each and had crap that didn’t work even if there was a Taurus print on the box.

    No Sir I am not Taurus bashing. I am known to defend that product but if it comes to Magazines and other accessories, Taurus is truly 100 miles behind other manufacturers.

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    PT111pro, I see your point. They do seem to lack a certain aftermarket capability. I would think that since a well made product can last for years that they would support that market.

    I like the gun. I really do. I think its well made and quality. This is more a corporate business model thing where the powers that be want to sell the latest and greatest and forget about yesterday.

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