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    Which Walther did you shoot, a P99? Was it the A/S version or the QA version? I love the A/S model. Its my all time fav gun (as everyone on this site already knows )

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    Hi Chemist,

    The folks here have given you good some good info so far.
    To get in to the large mammal range you eliminate most semi autos. Those that remain are not the best to learn on for a new shooter. If you still want to go with a semi auto, which would leave you looking at 10mm hand guns for the most part. You may want to try one at a range first, before buying one.

    On the other hand you have some more options with revolvers. But probably the best one would be a .357mag/.38spc which is just about right for some one just getting in to shooting.

    But here is what I would be looking at if I were in your shoes.
    http://www.ruger-firearms.com/Firear...l=308&return=Y
    I wish it was offered in a double action with stainless finish, but you can’t have every thing. And this option covers your needs with the bonus of cheep 9mm practices.

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    If I were to get a revolver - it would be this one:

    http://www.ruger-firearms.com/Firear...=1705&return=Y

    Also, be aware that ALL gun companies advertise their price higher than the street price. U can get one for $450 or less at a store.

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    From what you said a good 4" barrel 357 mag. would be the best over all handgun for you. There are many good handguns and cal. to pick from but lack of experience is where you limit yourself. After you have shot for awhile then you will be able to widen your selection or collection to pick the one that is best for where you go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shipwreck View Post
    Which Walther did you shoot, a P99? Was it the A/S version or the QA version? I love the A/S model. Its my all time fav gun (as everyone on this site already knows )
    Shipwreck it was a p99...to be honest I am not sure what time. I really liked the sights and it was a very comfortable easy layout!! Mags were easy to load too. Of course it was the first handgun I have ever shot

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    Thanks guys! I need to shoot a revolver next week to get a feel for it. How do these compare to say a .45 caliber semi auto pistol?

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    Quote Originally Posted by the chemist View Post
    I am sure this is asked a lot and I have read the sticky, which is excellent btw. I am going to the local gun range today to look over various handguns. I am finding it hard to pick what would suit my needs as it is not a common need. I am a photographer by heart and often find myself in the wilderness. I am thinking this will serve best as a last resort protection from dangerous mammels and hopefully nothing else. Basically I know nothing about handguns(read this literally). I am looking at either a Sig or glock but that is not based on any knowledge as i am open to anything. I would like for this to be light/small as the camping gear/climbing/photo gear is enough as is I am also planning on enrolling in some classes(the ones at Sig's sight looked good)? What do you guys recommend for <1000 new or used any brand. I would specifically like to hear from anyone that has the same needs/


    edit: forgot to add will need to handle extreme conditions(weather wise) and be easy to clean and VERY safe.

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    Ok, first off, I will admit I didn't read every response, so if I resay something someone has already stated, I do apologize.

    Alright. I am also a photographer, although I have not moved on to really climbing through the wilderness yet. I'd love to do it, but have not yet. I currently carry a Bersa Thunder380 which is small and lightweight. But I don't trust the gun enough to carry it with a round chambered and to carry it anywhere other than my ankle. So this is not a good option.

    I want everyone to take note that this is sort of out of character for me. LOL! I am going to reccomend a Glock.

    While I am a complete Sig fanatic, I wouldn't take my Sig out into the woods. It isn't that I don't think it could handle the job, but being a metal gun it is slightly heavier (and I assume, if you are like me, you don't need any more weight with a camera bag in tow while wandering on uneven ground) and is prone to surface rust. The Sig Pro, which is a polymer gun, is a good choice to combat that issue, but I have very little experience with them and therefore I cannot reccomend them and feel good about it.

    The Glock is polymer, light weight, and you can get a decent caliber in a smaller size. And you can pretty much torture the every living daylights out of one and it will still be good to you. So if you are a camper, you don't really need to worry too much about the rust issue, although it does still have metal parts you'll need to look after. It will gladly hold up against just about anything you toss its way, such as bumping into trees, falling into mud, etc.

    So I say rent a Glock at the local firing range. Research various calibers and see what size Glock you can get in it, then go nuts on the gun rental (if gun rental is an option at your local range). If you like it and buy one, I seriously doubt you will regret your choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the chemist View Post
    Thanks guys! I need to shoot a revolver next week to get a feel for it. How do these compare to say a .45 caliber semi auto pistol?
    Way less chance of jamming. A .357 is a good option, especially in the wilderness. Just be aware of the physics of a small barreled, light weight revolver and recoil.

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    Thanks sucklead! Great to hear from similar minds. I am a big camper and am really liking the glocks. I will play some more with them next time at the range and research...i can see how this can become an addicting hobby

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuckLead View Post
    Ok, first off, I will admit I didn't read every response,
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    The best fit, IMO, is a Glock 10mm.

    Sufficient power, good capacity, light weight and simply shrugs off harsh environments.

    I prefer the model 29 for a walking around gun, but the model 20 is easier to shoot fast and maintain good accuracy.

    FWIW


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    Yes, that would probably be the only semi auto to begin to fit the requirements, as I mentioned above - but a 10mm is not a 1st handgun for someone who just got into handguns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 9x19 View Post
    The best fit, IMO, is a Glock 10mm.

    Sufficient power, good capacity, light weight and simply shrugs off harsh environments.

    I prefer the model 29 for a walking around gun, but the model 20 is easier to shoot fast and maintain good accuracy.

    FWIW

    How does the 10mm caliber match up to the .40 glocks? Which has more power? I shot the .40 glock and it wasent bad at all?

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    10mm is more powerful - although, I have read the claims of others recently that states that commerical ammo is not as powerful anymore - for full 10mm power, ya gotta reload, apparently.

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    If this is for the wilderness I agree with gunut but I would get the S&W 460 in a 4 inch. I bought one for my son to take to Alaska. He wanted to take 45 acp but if you run into a bear i'd rather have two shots with a 460 or 500 mag than 13 rounds of 45acp. The reason I got the 460 is that when I get it back I can reload it for the 454 cas and 45 L Colt also. He is up there for another three weeks. He manly will be shooting with his Nikon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spacedoggy View Post
    If this is for the wilderness I agree with gunut but I would get the S&W 460 in a 4 inch. I bought one for my son to take to Alaska. He wanted to take 45 acp but if you run into a bear i'd rather have two shots with a 460 or 500 mag than 13 rounds of 45acp. The reason I got the 460 is that when I get it back I can reload it for the 454 cas and 45 L Colt also. He is up there for another three weeks. He manly will be shooting with his Nikon.
    Thanks! Sounds like a fun shoot with the nikon. Ahh more to research and ponder

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shipwreck View Post
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    Oh, like you do! LOL!

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    Quote Originally Posted by the chemist View Post
    Thanks! Sounds like a fun shoot with the nikon. Ahh more to research and ponder
    If you go for a 460 or 500, do shoot it first. They are two of those guns our range makes people sign a seperate waver for before shooting. I was actually thinking of those guns myself when I wrote my original response, but I was guessing you had very little to no experience shooting. Those two aren't a first gun, either. I love the 500, personally, but definetly shoot them before buying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuckLead View Post
    Oh, like you do! LOL!
    Actually, I pretty much do - as an admin, I try to.

    But, if I am replying in a thread, I definetly do

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuckLead View Post
    If you go for a 460 or 500, do shoot it first. They are two of those guns our range makes people sign a seperate waver for before shooting. I was actually thinking of those guns myself when I wrote my original response, but I was guessing you had very little to no experience shooting. Those two aren't a first gun, either. I love the 500, personally, but definetly shoot them before buying.
    i most certianly will! I plan on shooting a 10mm and a revolver next week. your assumption was correct. Last week was the first time shooting at the range. Heck I am having a lot of fun and might opt for 2 guns. One for the original intent and one to shoot at the range

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