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      Quote Originally Posted by falchunt View Post
      It's funny how people just ignore the facts and state their opinion.
      "Many of the things we hold true are based on a particular point of view" Ones opinion.
      A quote from a wise old Jedi. This is true for many people that are not privy to the force.
      Facts mean nothing to the Nuggets in Washington, the ONLY thing we ever here is their personal opinion.

      But opinion is what makes the world go round. Without opinion, (despite facts) the world would be a boring place.

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      Nice going algore is a fatwoman


      With that last post you pretty well slapped most on this forum.
      Last edited by dondavis3; 01-21-2010 at 09:34 AM.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Freedom1911 View Post
      "Many of the things we hold true are based on a particular point of view" Ones opinion.
      A quote from a wise old Jedi. This is true for many people that are not privy to the force.
      Facts mean nothing to the Nuggets in Washington, the ONLY thing we ever here is their personal opinion.

      But opinion is what makes the world go round. Without opinion, (despite facts) the world would be a boring place.
      Well that is a very interesting perspective, and also true.

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      +1 Freedom1911

      So true.


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      Most LEOs carry a glock. It is a good sidearm and allows LEOs to purchase them very inexpensively compared to others.
      bottom line.

      the same reason leo drive more fords than mercedes

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      +1 terryger


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      Thumbs up have always carried glock on duty

      I have carried a glock model 22 on duty since I became a cop at age 23. I am 30 now and still carry the same weapon now with a TLR-1 light in a safariland level II holster. I also have a ruger new vaquero 45 long colt with custom grips that is my special occasion rig. Have given thought to a custom 1911 in .45acp to carry on duty, maybe a STI or Wilson Combat.

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      If your considering international also it would definetly be Sig Sauer over Glock! Glock is mostly only purchased by the Untied states LE agencies and is loosing alot of those agencies that it once had! HK was just awarded contract for supplying the u.s army spec ops with there .45's The Navy is still with Sig,Air force is still with Glock I believe but over sea's is real big on the sigs,not Glock,Glock is a fine pistol but has been loosing ground lately in there sales!

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      My department issues H&K USP45s. They replaced our S&W 4576s which replaced or S&W 66s. I don't know what we had before that. They are seemed to work okay for me.

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      FROM THE SIG WEBITE:
      In the USA, nearly 1 in 3 law enforcement professionals use SIG SAUER firearms. “We are proud that many elite military and government forces including the U.S. Navy Seals, the Federal Air Marshals, the Department of Homeland Security and the U. S. Coast Guard carry SIG SAUER firearms”, said Ron Cohen, President and CEO of SIG SAUER.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Revolver View Post
      Military is obviously the Beretta. Locally(and elsewhere), the Beretta is pretty frequent with most police departments too. So if I had to count US Armed Forces AND LE Beretta would have to win, obviously. The inclusion of military makes Beretta the winner. H&K has a pretty strong precense among SOCOM(Mk23 ring a bell?).
      I can only speak about Europe, especially Germany. German Army is using the H&K USP (they call it P8). Also a lot of German Police Departments using HK P7, USP compact and HK P2000. The German KSK (Kommando Spezialkräfte, equal to the British SAS) is using USP Tactical. The German GSG9 is using Glock and H&K. Other popular guns in German Police Forces are Walther P99 and SigSauer. I also know that the french navy is using the USP

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      In n ireland the police carry glocks , probably because they are cheap . I have read of some police departments in america changing their .40 and .45 glocks for 9mm because of case failures resulting in the gun being destroyed . It usually comes down to buying a adequate gun at the cheapest price , Thats why glocks are so popular .

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      Quote Originally Posted by manta View Post
      In n ireland the police carry glocks , probably because they are cheap . I have read of some police departments in america changing their .40 and .45 glocks for 9mm because of case failures resulting in the gun being destroyed . It usually comes down to buying a adequate gun at the cheapest price , Thats why glocks are so popular .
      a case failure in any gun will lead to it being destroyed not just a glock. with all the glocks out there how many of them actually explode in your hand. not many and if they do its because of the round not the gun

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      Quote Originally Posted by austin88 View Post
      a case failure in any gun will lead to it being destroyed not just a glock. with all the glocks out there how many of them actually explode in your hand. not many and if they do its because of the round not the gun
      Yes but glocks are known for having poor case support , Compared with other semi autos , Thats why you can buy barrels with better support from other sources. On a steel gun you can get away with the mag being blown out , On plastic guns the gun tends to be destroyed.

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      Police, Glock. Military, Sig Sauer. Sig passed the US miltary mil-spec standard grading requirements over 15 years ago. I prefer it to the glock. The Sigs I'm sure have replaced all the worn out Colts in the US miltary by now.--------RJ

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      Most used in the world.

      Quote Originally Posted by James NM View Post
      I vote CZ 75 B.

      From the CZ website: CZ-USA -> Product Categories
      Ditto!

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      I have read about many people and LEO use glock.. but in somewhere I read that glock has very low price and that is attractive and someone said glock sometimes buy the old guns and lower more the price...and that is why they get many contracts

      but I think that doesnt mean glock is the best pistol for that..

      For sure many people buy glock cause this is cheaper than many other brands like walther, HK, sig, S&W, and so on..

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      with OVER 450,000 m9 pistols in service with the u.s. military alone the obvious answer is that more berettas are used since this number does not include any other model beretta pistol or any other user.

      that was 450,000 NEW m9's as of the 2009 contract and doesnt take into account the pistols acquired since the mid 80s
      Last edited by TedDeBearFrmHell; 08-22-2011 at 11:18 PM. Reason: addition detail

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      Quote Originally Posted by TedDeBearFrmHell View Post
      with OVER 450,000 m9 pistols in service with the u.s. military alone the obvious answer is that more berettas are used since this number does not include any other model beretta pistol or any other user.
      Wtf is up with the U.S. Military and the M9 beretta? I know its all political, but its asinine

      A soldier has enough to carry without having to carry an ALL METAL gun, the U.S. should really consider changing the official sidearm to GLOCK or something polymer

      Not to say Beretta isn't good but I just think its silly that the gov't keeps issuing these 9mm berettas when they could give our soldiers .45 acp glock which would weigh less and give our soldiers alittle more firepower and alot less JAM

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      Quote Originally Posted by jakeleinen1 View Post
      Wtf is up with the U.S. Military and the M9 beretta? I know its all political, but its asinine

      A soldier has enough to carry without having to carry an ALL METAL gun, the U.S. should really consider changing the official sidearm to GLOCK or something polymer

      Not to say Beretta isn't good but I just think its silly that the gov't keeps issuing these 9mm berettas when they could give our soldiers .45 acp glock which would weigh less and give our soldiers alittle more firepower and alot less JAM
      the requirements of a police duty weapon and a combat service weapon are eons apart. the police weapon needs to function when removed from a holster, the combat weapon needs to function when removed from a muddy ditch..... the ak47 is comparatively heavy when measured against the m16 of my generation but the ak was considered a better COMBAT weapon because it has very loose tolerances AND would fire all the time.

      a combat weapon needs to work frozen, wet, muddy, gritty, sandy, hot and bloody. anyone whose azz depends on the reliability of a weapon would gladly keep the weight for toughness. i am sure that your experience in these matters consists of the finest reading materials on the market. perhaps you even played the best video games around, maybe even lead an elite team of men in online combat role playing scenarios but until you get out in the sh!t yourself and bet your life on your weapon, your opinion means the same as the desk flying admiral or the accountant general ..... nothing.

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