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  • Springfield XD/HS 2000

    26 3.36%
  • Glock

    402 52.01%
  • Beretta

    128 16.56%
  • Walther

    8 1.03%
  • H&K

    22 2.85%
  • Sig Sauer

    126 16.30%
  • Colt 1911 & Copies

    30 3.88%
  • Others (Name them)

    31 4.01%
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    Granted this does not speak for all LE because I have not witnessed it firsthand, but the guys that guard our vault at work carry G21's, and both of them are retired SC state troopers. They both agree that the majority of SC law enforcement all carry Glock.

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    Glock the most, Some departments use Sig like the Michigan State Police, ohio state Highway Patrol, texas Rangers, some homeland security personnel, coast guard, SEALs. Beretta is standard issue to the Army and USMC as far as I understand.

    Some agencies in the US like the Atlanta PD is switching from Glock to S&W's M&P line, some agencies offer HK USP as an option or as standard issue.

    I know that the BSO (Broward Sheriff's office) here in FL uses Glock, but they allow people to use Sig if they are grandfathered in. What does that mean? I really don't have a clue lol, but that's what I was told when I was looking at Sigs in the shop.

    You know what though? It doesn't even matter to me. I mean, if everyone in the country was issued a Springfield XD I would not buy one based on that. I bought what I have because of comfort, quality, reliability reports, and personal taste. Obviously it has to shoot good too.

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    Up here, RCMP use Smiths, OPP use Sig 229, most citys use Glocks

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    The police around here are a mixed lot. The state (Michigan) issues sig226 9mm, the locals get .45acp glocks, and the county issues a mix of .40 glocks and bererta 92s...I believe they are switching from the beretta to the glock, but this is just from chatting with the officers. The county next door is getting M&Ps but I don't know if they are getting 9mm or .45

    I'm with Mike...where the heck are all the M9s?! On my deployment we were only issued with about 60 for a battery of 210 soldiers...they went the Officers, NCOs, and the soldiers whose primary job involved driving. While Mike and others have correctly pointed out, the soldiers weapon is the rifle and the pistol is just a back up, I'd like a backup and I'd like it to work. As I've posted previously the M9 I was issued with was completely un-serviceable and I could not get parts from any Military source. When we qualified prior to that weapons issue we all had to share 3 M9s.

    500,000+? That blows my socks off.

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    Having gotten a little range time with my new (to me) P226 9mm today, I can see the attraction to that particular style of action and frame. Simple decocked non-manual safety firing-pin block safety setup. Just point and shoot DA 1st round without worry fumbling with a safety. Though I'm sure in the heat of it and proficiency with your weapon, I'm sure a competent shooter would be able to go off safety quick enough with the 92/m9.

    The Sig da/sa strikes me as possibly easier to train maybe... Load, chamber, decock and holster and it's in carry-mode. In split-second SHTF situation, it's just present, aim, fire (I'm sure there's a more established procedure but something like that) without worry about a safety.. Almost like an old school revolver, except the rounds after round 1 are sweet single action pulls.

    I'm almost already thinking about my next 220 or Sig 1911. Got Sig-itis bad now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by babs View Post
    Having gotten a little range time with my new (to me) P226 9mm today, I can see the attraction to that particular style of action and frame. Simple decocked non-manual safety firing-pin block safety setup. Just point and shoot DA 1st round without worry fumbling with a safety. Though I'm sure in the heat of it and proficiency with your weapon, I'm sure a competent shooter would be able to go off safety quick enough with the 92/m9.

    The Sig da/sa strikes me as possibly easier to train maybe... Load, chamber, decock and holster and it's in carry-mode. In split-second SHTF situation, it's just present, aim, fire (I'm sure there's a more established procedure but something like that) without worry about a safety.. Almost like an old school revolver, except the rounds after round 1 are sweet single action pulls.

    I'm almost already thinking about my next 220 or Sig 1911. Got Sig-itis bad
    now.
    I know the Sig-its...I'm very interested in their new P250.
    http://www.sigsauer.com/Products/Sho...183&play=close

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    So I was in the shop the other day and here comes a local PD officer for their Monday evening informal competition shooting. I ask him about svc weapons.. Naturally, you guessed it, not only was he a Glock .40 fan, but very very adamant about it. Definitely his weapon of choice for duty carry.

    Reason have gave me... Bang every time, period.

    Although I chimed in that I was waiting to talk to the smith about the new Sig 226 getting sights, he perked up.. "oooh nice". I agreed naturally.

    But from the conversation, I got the impression for duty carry, it's all about just a few things... Weight, size, dependability and decent short-distance accuracy and no fumbling safety to mess with.. point and click.

    Given the typical cop shootout vids I've seen, their SHTF situations are quick-draw close-range where a perp stopped on the side of the road or on the streets makes that last bad mistake and the lead starts slinging..

    Their weapons have to be right there, quick to aim, quick to cycle and jam-free, but not weigh a ton for the 99.99999% of the time when they're just carried.

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    Alot of Law enforcement struck a deal with the Glock 45 gap.
    Why? Not because the agencies felt that was the best but because Glock gave them a deal they couldn't turn down,,the GAP was getting no where, So selling them to law for a can't turn down price was better than sitting on them .
    The GAP round is more than likely the worst selling out there.

    The GAP was a good idea but flopped

    Also Military signed another deal for x amount of M9's not long ago,,the article was posted on Beretta forum

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    I vote CZ 75 B.

    From the CZ website: http://www.cz-usa.com/products_handguns.php
    The CZ 75 B is used by more Governments, Militaries, Police and Security agencies than any other pistol in the world. The CZ 75 is quite possibly the perfect pistol.

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    I voted glock.
    I think the majority of Armed Police officers in the UK carry glocks but I've only seen armed police officers two times in the ten years I have lived in the UK. Two police forces over here that don't use glocks are Surrey(Smith and Wesson) and the ministry of defence police(browning). The UK military uses the browning pistol even though I believe its only issued to officers, MPs, drivers etc..., special forces (SAS, SBS) use Sig Sauers. And all but one(WSP) of the LEO agency's in Western Washington that I've applied to have glocks as standard issue.

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    I wonder how the Sig's (world-wide) fair in the LE / Military quantities or % usage.. Seems all these CPO Sigs (like my new-to-me p226) are typically LE turn-in's. I imagine a LOT in Germany and the region. I know the US military uses them in some amounts... I think the coast guard maybe and the SEAL teams to some extent.

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    The Army also issues the SIG P228/M11 to CID agents and some pilots. I saw quite a few while I was in Afghanistan.
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    Secret Service issues a Sig 226 in .357 sig

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    We are issued Sig P229R (rail) now,just got mine about 2 months ago.We
    were using the P229 (non rail).

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    from what i've seen, police: glock, military: beretta, special forces: sig

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    Every police officer I see has a Glock

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    Most Used Handguns by LE & M

    I hope that no one makes a purchasing decision based on what local, state or national governments purchase. I spent 32 years as a sales rep for various companies and, generally, contracts with government agencies were let to the lowest bidder, not the best performing or highest quality products. The best weapon for me is the one that fits my hand, budget and (eventually) belt. I am enamored by most of them and will undoubtedly add several to keep my SS P-6 company in the months & years to come.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RevDerb View Post
    I hope that no one makes a purchasing decision based on what local, state or national governments purchase. I spent 32 years as a sales rep for various companies and, generally, contracts with government agencies were let to the lowest bidder, not the best performing or highest quality products.
    Not as true anymore. Many contracts are decided by best value for the money, not low bidder, now.

    For example, the DOJ and DHS gun and ammo contracts did not go the the lowest bidder, they went to the guns and ammo that scored the highest in evaluations and had an "aceeptable" bid.

    If it was all low bid, everybody would be shooting Rugers w Wolf ammo.

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    City PD Glocks County Sheriff Dept are Sigs

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    Quote Originally Posted by RevDerb View Post
    I hope that no one makes a purchasing decision based on what local, state or national governments purchase. I spent 32 years as a sales rep for various companies and, generally, contracts with government agencies were let to the lowest bidder, not the best performing or highest quality products. The best weapon for me is the one that fits my hand, budget and (eventually) belt. I am enamored by most of them and will undoubtedly add several to keep my SS P-6 company in the months & years to come.
    Since my original post, I've added a Glock 26 and a SIG Mosquito (standard) to the gun box. I am having ALMOST as much fun shopping for them and comparing +'s and -'s as I am shooting them. I have also moved my residence from metro Detroit to northern Michigan.

    Am pleased to know that value and performance are now (supposedly) considered for govt purchases rather than just lowest bid.

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