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    Question Any Sig auto's in competition?

    I'm considering my P229 (9mm) for competition. Anyone here use a Sig in shooting competitions?

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    I have used my P226 in a few little ones, but not many, and I haven't done it in a while. I'm not really brave enough to try competitions yet. I deal with more than a few that seem to use their Trailsides for competitions, though.

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    Yeah, the 226 is the model I hear being used the most. A little heavier, slightly longer barrel and more mag capacity. But, in IDPA a 10 round mag is the max and the local steel challenge is a five round shoot. I see a lot of Glocks being used. I'll give my 229 a tryout.

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    competition

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    I am afraid the Glocks will have you for lunch.....they considerably faster into action.....!!!

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    Sig,
    I am afraid the Glocks will have you for lunch.....they considerably faster into action.....!!!
    Ah, competition. But, I always thought it was the shooter, not the gun. A fast accurate gun in the hands of a poor shooter is a lot of holes spattered everywhere. Besides, why follow the normal path. Sometimes a short cut is faster.

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    I'm going to have to agree with the Glock thing, and I hate to do it. But I deal with a lot of hardcore competition shooters and they all say the same thing... the Glocks seem to kick some serious butt, especially in IDPA.

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    Geez, don't anyone tell Ernie Langdon he couldn't possibly have won all those IDPA titles (including at least one national championship) with a double-action SIG.

    Granted, a gun with a more consistent trigger is easier, but as always "it's not the arrow, it's the Indian."
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    Ernie Langdon. Yea, that's the guy who won the championships with a Sig.

    I see you are stationed on the US/Mexico border. Did you ever think you'd live to see the day we (Americans) had to guard the border? Stay safe and alert. Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by SigZagger View Post
    I see you are stationed on the US/Mexico border. Did you ever think you'd live to see the day we (Americans) had to guard the border? Stay safe and alert. Thanks
    Well, it is a sad thing, but it's also something we should have done right after 9/11, in my opinion. I'm glad to be serving here - I like the idea of doing something for MY country and OUR future. We're making a difference, regardless of the opinion pieces in the liberal media. I am in a position to see the apprehension reports, and the rate of illegal crossings has diminished VERY considerably since the Guard arrived here.

    The problems will continue until Mexico gives up on its dreams of socialism, so this problem will drag on indefinitely.

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    May I ask what exactly is your role as a military guardsmen regarding illegals fleeing from you, heading towards the US border? I don't watch the democratic news media reports. Are you at liberty to divulge any information?

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    Sig vs. Glock

    What I was referencing was the simple principle difference for the speed of getting off the first shot with a single action weapon as opposed to that of a doulbe/single action weapon. Both being stock box.....not tuned or tinkered with. Also forget the reference some some "high speed low drag' shooter....!!

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    I have fired a Glock 17 and liked its accuracy. I didn't care for the grip. It's been well over a year and I forgot, is it DA/SA or all SAO?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SigZagger View Post
    May I ask what exactly is your role as a military guardsmen regarding illegals fleeing from you, heading towards the US border? I don't watch the democratic news media reports. Are you at liberty to divulge any information?
    "Fleeing" from me and heading deeper into the US, you mean? Get on a radio and call a Border Patrol agent. Our rules of engagement are pretty strict: weapons are for self-defense only, and we cannot make contact with an illegal unless we are under the supervision of a Border Patrol agent. I am lucky, because I can roll with BP guys basically whenever I want, rather that being stuck on a fixed "EIT" site. (EIT = Early Identification Team, basically an LP/OP in military parlance.)

    Not sure if that answers your question, but feel free to PM me.
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    we cannot make contact with an illegal unless we are under the supervision of a Border Patrol agent.
    O.K. I understand. I thought (probably like many America citizens) guardsmen were stationed alone every 1/4 mile or so, standing a post. When you spotted someone crossing your sector, they were stopped and detained for questioning. Seems like the government just wants a bunch of military troops in camo standing nearby. If I were in charge, you'd be at a post. Only you'd be permitted to act as a soldier the US government trained for combat if needed. If an illegal person(s) from Mexico wants to attempt to cross the border into America; well then they should have the opportunity to meet some of the finest trained troops in the world. Then you could escort their asses back across the border, compliments of Uncle Sam. I hope you accomplish your mission safely and return to your home and family.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SigZagger View Post
    O.K. I understand. I thought (probably like many America citizens) guardsmen were stationed alone every 1/4 mile or so, standing a post. When you spotted someone crossing your sector, they were stopped and detained for questioning. Seems like the government just wants a bunch of military troops in camo standing nearby. If I were in charge, you'd be at a post. Only you'd be permitted to act as a soldier the US government trained for combat if needed. If an illegal person(s) from Mexico wants to attempt to cross the border into America; well then they should have the opportunity to meet some of the finest trained troops in the world. Then you could escort their asses back across the border, compliments of Uncle Sam. I hope you accomplish your mission safely and return to your home and family.
    We do have many, many Guardsmen doing just that - they are at the EIT (Early Identification Team) sites, which are deployed in intervals somewhat like you've described. That's just not my personal job. The guys at the EIT sites observe the border from a fixed point, using binocs, night vision, telescopes, etc. When they see movement, they call the Border Patrol and an agent intercepts the illegals, who are either detained or sometimes flee back to Mexico. It seems to be working pretty well; I see a LOT of reports filed as "National Guard assists."

    As far as accomplishing the mission, I fear this is going to be what Secretary Rumsfeld (describing something else) called a "long, hard slog." There needs to a multifacted approach to the problem, not the least of which is putting pressure on the Mexican government to renounce the socialist economic policies that drive its people into poverty and make them desperate to escape their country.

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    ...putting pressure on the Mexican government to renounce the socialist economic policies that drive its people into poverty and make them desperate to escape their country.
    WHO? You mean the US? President Bush? Isn't he tight with President Fox of Mexico? Too many ????.

    Hang tough!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SigZagger View Post
    WHO? You mean the US? President Bush? Isn't he tight with President Fox of Mexico? Too many ????.

    Hang tough!
    Yeah, I know, wishful thinking. The alternative is for the US to legislate itself yet deeper into the socialist morass. This way, we'll ruin our own economy, and no one will want to come here anyway, thus fulfilling the "egalitarian" leftist dream of America being just like every other crappy little county in the world.

    Come to think of it, that awful theory has some plausibility...
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