Stricker fire or DA/SA - which do you prefer and why?
I was watching a youtube video and the guy shooting said he preferred a "stricker fired pistol like his Glock instead of a trigger pistol".
I was wondering what everyone here thought about the different types?
The SA design is my favorite for accuracy. A 1911 would be a good example. My S&W M&P full size in 40 or 357 Sig is just about as good without having to fuss with a hammer. My Ruger SR40C is still essentially a SA in function though the trigger arc is larger. I don't think I'd like a DA/SA gun where the first shot is different than the other shots in any sequence.
I used to think the trigger was a big deal and that accuracy was a big deal. But now I don't shoot for accuracy. It puts a lot of needless strain on you. Now I shoot for defense. I can shoot a fist-size group at 30 ft. That will kill most bad guys. The same size group will take care of a BG with a vest. You can adjust to any trigger to get this size of a group.
Carrying on my belt (OWB), I prefer single-action (SA) with a safety lever.
For pocket carry, I prefer double-action-only (DAO) without a safety lever.
On the belt, the holster keeps the safety from moving to "on," and keeps the trigger-guard completely covered. That allows me to take advantage of a really good SA trigger action.
In the pocket, in a holster, I feel no confidence that a pistol's safety can really be immobilized. Therefore, safetyless DAO seems to be the most secure mode for pocket carry.
None of our pistols are striker-fired. All of them have hammers, including the DAO guns.
I believe that the trigger action is more of a deciding factor, in terms of safety and accuracy, than is the primer-punching portion of the pistol. Hammer or striker: same, same.
My preference is a quality DAO when talking pistols. I have owned both hammer and striker fired DAO's and my preference over the past 12 years has been striker vs hammer. But a good, quality hammer fired DAO is nothing to sneeze at and many (I think) offer second strike capability. In the end, it's going to depend upon the pistol. As for DA pistols, I don't care for them for carry purposes. I do have one, but it's not in my carry stable.
I think consistency is important if you have multiple handguns. If you have a mix of 1911-style single-action-only, SA/DA, safety up to fire, safety down to fire, etc., it's hard to develop reliable muscle memory.
Originally Posted by Scott9mm
I should have included that thought in my own post.
I have 5 handguns currently and they're all different from the other. In a training standpoint, some people may think it's counterproductive to have a wide variety of handguns but I love it. I have a striker fire with no thumb safety (my XD 45C) that is my main carry gun, a striker fire with thumb safety (my M&P 9C) that is my "ultimate conceal" gun, a DA/SA with safety/decocker (FNX 45) which is my current night stand gun, a DA/SA with decocker (Sig SP2022 9mm) which is my carry gun when I want the highest capacity, and a SAO (Colt Government .45 ACP) that I carry when I want the thinnest frame possible. In my opinion, it is best to familiarize yourself with as many different gun types as possible. Some people may disagree, but that's how I feel.
edit: I do agree with Scott9mm that it is hard to develop great muscle memory if you have a lot of different style handguns, but my personal preference is to be good with all types of guns rather than be great with one. I'm not a competitive target shooter so my thoughts may be different than others, but that's how I feel.
Be conscious and very deliberate in your actions when handling firearms, do not rely on habit or muscle memory.
-Col. Jeff Cooper, USMC Retired, 1920-2006
There's a difference between just doing some fun shooting at a range and serious SD practice. I agree with you that if you are of a mind to have a collection of different style and action types in your carry stable, and in particular your primary collection, they it is difficult to develop good and consistent behavior in your SD training. Example. I have two .22LR target pistols with which I just like to shoot for fun. I would never consider using them in my more serious SD training. I also have 1911's and one DA pistol. Those are also not in my carry stable and I don't shoot them very often at all.
Originally Posted by Scott9mm
Your post is correct and well taken.
I'm not a big fan of striker fired guns but they've been around a long time and proven themselves.
I believe in being proficient in the diversity of gun designs but I don't think swapping designs around in carry is a great idea.I had to carry a revolver and transitioned to the auto,I carried a Beretta and a Smith,but my personal choice has always been a 1911 and that's been my personal carry gun from the start.I've competed with both designs also and never fumbled with them because my hand automatically knows how to manipulate it.When I grip it my hand knows that gun by the feeling of that grip and the fingers know what to do to operate that gun.It isn't something you do fondling it at home and static range practice,it takes real time running that gun for a couple thousand rounds.If you're going to carry different designs be honest and don't fool yourself,learn that gun by running it until you know that gun like the back of your hand.I still don't understand why Beretta changed to the flawed slide mounted safety but that's a different subject.
I agree.............I have an sa/da hammer fired with safety and decocker, a striker fired da with safety, a hammer fired da with safety, and a wheel gun.
Originally Posted by hof8231
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