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      Keep a magazine full all the time?

      I was taking with a friend and they were telling me that keeping a magazine full all the time will significantly decrease it's life span. Saying it will wear the spring out. He recommended removing one or two rounds.

      I thought that a spring was more effected by the number of cycles it's goes through (full to empty).

      What do you all have to say about that?

      Currently I have a xdm 9mm full size 4.5".

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      Previous posts have discussed this ad nauseum......

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      Quote Originally Posted by berettabone View Post
      Previous posts have discussed this ad nauseum......
      +1

      But the friend was wrong. Cycling the mag can cause fatigue, keeping it loaded or unloaded will do nothing. Hope this helps....

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      He's just asking a valid question guys? I ask myself the same thing!?

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      Quote Originally Posted by TheLAGuy View Post
      He's just asking a valid question guys? I ask myself the same thing!?
      Both of you might want to use the little white area at the upper right.
      The one with the little icon that is supposed to represent a magnifying glass (I'm just guessing).
      Another hint is the white text below the white area that says "Advanced Search".

      I'd suggest first trying "mag spring". Have fun for the rest of the evening.

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      I know the answer. I'm just being my usual curmudgeonly and sometimes downright nasty self.
      Because, it's just a given that "students" remember best when they do the research themselves.

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      Quote Originally Posted by DanP_from_AZ View Post
      Both of you might want to use the little white area at the upper right.
      The one with the little icon that is supposed to represent a magnifying glass (I'm just guessing).
      Another hint is the white text below the white area that says "Advanced Search".

      I'd suggest first trying "mag spring". Have fun for the rest of the evening.

      P.S.
      I know the answer. I'm just being my usual curmudgeonly and sometimes downright nasty self.
      Because, it's just a given that "students" remember best when they do the research themselves.
      Your own tough cookie arent you?!?!

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      Quote Originally Posted by DanP_from_AZ View Post
      . . . I'm just being my usual curmudgeonly and sometimes downright nasty self. . .
      Sorry for being such an a__hole.

      The TV was on to my right. And someone was talking about our President bringing children to his photo op tomorrow
      when he will let all us folks in the red-state flyover zones know what we are going to have to sacrifice "for the children".

      And, it caused me to slide into temporary insanitary. At least I hope it's temporary.

      My Bad.

      For the real answer to your question, you first must know the metallurgy in "the magazine spring".
      Properly designed "good stuff" springs act totally different from "selected to make a buck" springs.
      Hence, you will see people recommending "don't buy this brand". Usually from hard-won experience.

      I'll give you a hint, which I've said before.
      "How many cycles do the valve springs in your car engine endure, from unloaded to full deflection".
      Remember, when the engine is off, some springs are unloaded, some are full deflection, some inbetween.
      The actual number of cycles per mile does depend on many factors. But, it is always "a lot".
      Millions of cars on the road. Many engines last more than 100,000 miles.

      When was the last time you and your buds were tossing back brews, and comparing how many times
      that damn engine let you down again with a broken valve spring that caused your "walk home experience" ?

      Automotive engineers make SURE the design/metallurgy is good. NOTHING hits your brand worse than a "walk home".

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      Re: Keep a magazine full all the time?

      Thanks....

      Btw I did search, but it appears the search function on tapatalk works differently than the full webpage and gives different (less relevant) results. Sorry.

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      Not to worry.

      Load that mag up to capacity and forget about it. As others have stated, the topic has been covered many times on any and all firearms forums.

      Consensus is the same.

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      So should you transfer rounds every month or so? To another magazine? Or will that spring last the test of time?

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      Not to keep beating this "dead horse" so I will keep it short.

      Through personal experience, I had no problems with the mags on my 1911, Sig SP2022, Kel Tec's give any problem staying full load all the time. I heard that some springs seize in compressed position after a while.

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      Quote Originally Posted by TheLAGuy View Post
      So should you transfer rounds every month or so? To another magazine? Or will that spring last the test of time?
      As stated above, no. Springs wear from cycling, not compression, and transferring rounds around just puts cycles on the spring.

      KG

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      Quote Originally Posted by kg333 View Post
      As stated above, no. Springs wear from cycling, not compression, and transferring rounds around just puts cycles on the spring.

      KG

      +1

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      There are a few exceptions to this.Besides spring quality,it's the available space for the spring to compress.Older 30rd M16 and 8 round conversions in 7 round 1911 mags were problematic,the M16/AR mags were normally downloaded by 2 rounds.The problem was whe fully compressed in the space allowed the spring sat at it's elastic limit,and slowly weakened it.Pretty much any quality modern mag will be just fine,I've had 1911 mags loaded for years 24/7 and are still good.

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