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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLAGuy View Post
    range gun/ home defense pistol, exactly.

    i live in CA, even if I wanted a CCW, its almost impossible to obtain one here.

    i'm leaving towards a glock at this point. my co-worker is recommending i check out a s&w before i make a purchase.

    i'm 90% sure i want a glock. either a g19 or g17. or should i go with a .40 cal glock? this is a difficult decision being my first gun purchase.
    If it were me and I wanted a Glock and was limited to a 10 round capacity magazine I'd go w/ a Glock 23 in 40cal, or a Glock 30 in 45cal. If I wasn't limited to a 10 round magazine I'd go w/ a Glock 19.
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    I own a Glock 21 (up for sale) and a Berretta PX4 Compact. The Beretta feels great and shoots great and has a 15 round magazine, albeit in 9MM. The Glock shoots as well but feels like a brick in the hand. Admittedly I have smaller hands.

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    I payed $600 for my Beretta 92fs

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    Quote Originally Posted by beretta9mm View Post
    I payed $600 for my Beretta 92fs
    I bought one in 1997 for the same price $599.99.

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    So do you like a Beretta over a Glock is the real question?

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    Hi there from Italy.

    I've had and carried for 15 years a 92 Beretta, shooting a lot (more than 20.000 round / year).
    The tecnical life for a 92 model is about 3.500 rounds (....just a few...!).
    Glock is now my favourite gun (19C model) and I had it since 2000 year. I now own the 5th.
    I've used it at the same rithm, changing just the firing pin spring and the disconnector spring. The first one weacks in 1 year of carryng in condition 1, the second breacks in 15.000 rounds.
    No other problems with glock: I fired a round also in a swimming pool, 1 meter depht

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    so what your saying is glock is superior to the beretta? correct?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLAGuy View Post
    So do you like a Beretta over a Glock is the real question?
    I prefer Beretta over Glock for self protection and range use. I've owned a 92G since 1993, shoots like new and I'm very accurate with it and it goes bang everytime. In are family we own: 92G, 92FS, 96FS, PX4 Storm Compact and Subcompact and a Beretta Inox 32cal. All are accurate, dependable firearms. If you shoot out a Beretta 92 in your lifetime let me know, I'd like to hear about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by denner View Post
    I prefer Beretta over Glock for self protection and range use.
    And why is that? Just because you're used to it and that's the gun you own, or its features? Why would you pick a Beretta over a Glock?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLAGuy View Post
    And why is that? Just because you're used to it and that's the gun you own, or its features? Why would you pick a Beretta over a Glock?
    Subjective opinion: The safety features, rotating decocker, DA/SA, exposed hammer, would probably be my main preference coupled w/ the single action trigger pull which I prefer over the Glock trigger. If you ever drop a glock condition 1 from your waistband do not attempt to catch it on the way down, a Beretta I would and have but not recommended. I just like knowing if I carry condition (1) I would have a much harder time having a negligent discharge as compared to a glock especially the way I carry @ 11:00 o'clock in a soft holster. Not saying you cannot CCW carry a Glock safely in condition (1), but Beretta's design in the DA/SA, rotating decocker, in my opinion is much more forgiving, but to each their own.
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    So you think the Beretta is a more safe gun is what your saying? Do you carry your Beretta ready to roll? Thanks again for what you have to offer, I'm in the market right now and I've been leaning towards the Glock but this is making me question where I'm heading towards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLAGuy View Post
    So you think the Beretta is a more safe gun is what your saying? Do you carry your Beretta ready to roll? Thanks again for what you have to offer, I'm in the market right now and I've been leaning towards the Glock but this is making me question where I'm heading towards.
    That's exactly what I'm saying, my Beretta's, or at least 1 is always ready to roll and I carry one everyday in which I trust my life with, but, any firearm is only as safe as it's owner. Personally, I prefer the "G" models, no safety just a decocker and rely on the first DA pull as a safety measure, my brother prefers the safety feature, some prefer glock, but then again to each their own. Whatever pistol you choose you need to train and become proficient with it and I'd advise to stick with one mode of operation, DA/SA or striker fired, safety or no safety etc.....
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    I would not trade my Beretta M9, my Beretta 84BB nor even my Beretta Model 1934 for a boxcar-load of Glocks. Berettas are quality firearms. Glocks have never interested me in the least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CPT.ZERO View Post
    Hi there from Italy.

    No other problems with glock: I fired a round also in a swimming pool, 1 meter depht

    Regards
    Next time I go to an under-water range I'll see about renting a Glock. I have been told that they also make good boat anchors.

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    So why does the military and law enforcement all carry Glocks? Kinda curious for that one. I'm still undecided guys, I'm going back to the range this weekend and try a few options. Possibly even a S&W 9mm... Any advice is greatly appreciated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLAGuy View Post
    So why does the military and law enforcement all carry Glocks? Kinda curious for that one. I'm still undecided guys, I'm going back to the range this weekend and try a few options. Possibly even a S&W 9mm... Any advice is greatly appreciated.
    I have to admit I have never owned a full size Beretta. I now have a Beretta Nano that I am VERY impressed with. It will be my CCW pistol of choice when I need a smaller pistol. I own Glocks also, but cannot do a comparison, because I've only fired a Beretaa 92 a time or two.

    You have gotten some great advice already. You're going to have to try to find a range and rent both guns and decide for yourself.

    I'm not sure if any US military use Glocks, but they are used by MANY U.S. Law enforcement agencies. And even though I'm a fan of Glock, here's why there are more Glocks in use by police: $$$$$$$$$$. And if you get a chance read the book on Glock. Glock was very smart in their marketing. Their pistols were introduced after the famous FBI shootout in Forida where agents were outgunned while using their revolvers. Glock has marketed heavily to LE agencies and have given DEEP discounts and buy back deals for old Glocks.

    I'm not saying that Glocks will not keep you safe or are bad weapons, I'm just saying that Glock as a company has been smart in the marketing department. Here's just one example: When Smith & Wesson and an ammo manufacturer designed the .40 cal. round, Glock beat them to the market with a production pistol chambered in .40 caliber. The then CEO of S&W told the author of the Glock book that "We just got our ass kicked."

    My last piece of advice: Shoot as many guns as you can. Pick one that 'feels' right to YOU. And one that YOU can shoot the best. I have NO reservations about carrying my Glock with a loaded chamber--to me it makes no sense not to. Also, the Beretta, Springfield XD's, and S&W M&P's are all fine firearms.

    My last, last piece of advice: Don't take advice from a bunch of guys on the internet!!! Take care, be safe, and good luck. Let us know what you get...

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    "... the military ... all carry Glocks?" Really? I could have sworn those M9s said "Beretta" on them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoyleH View Post
    I have to admit I have never owned a full size Beretta. I now have a Beretta Nano that I am VERY impressed with. It will be my CCW pistol of choice when I need a smaller pistol. I own Glocks also, but cannot do a comparison, because I've only fired a Beretaa 92 a time or two.

    You have gotten some great advice already. You're going to have to try to find a range and rent both guns and decide for yourself.

    I'm not sure if any US military use Glocks, but they are used by MANY U.S. Law enforcement agencies. And even though I'm a fan of Glock, here's why there are more Glocks in use by police: $$$$$$$$$$. And if you get a chance read the book on Glock. Glock was very smart in their marketing. Their pistols were introduced after the famous FBI shootout in Forida where agents were outgunned while using their revolvers. Glock has marketed heavily to LE agencies and have given DEEP discounts and buy back deals for old Glocks.

    I'm not saying that Glocks will not keep you safe or are bad weapons, I'm just saying that Glock as a company has been smart in the marketing department. Here's just one example: When Smith & Wesson and an ammo manufacturer designed the .40 cal. round, Glock beat them to the market with a production pistol chambered in .40 caliber. The then CEO of S&W told the author of the Glock book that "We just got our ass kicked."

    My last piece of advice: Shoot as many guns as you can. Pick one that 'feels' right to YOU. And one that YOU can shoot the best. I have NO reservations about carrying my Glock with a loaded chamber--to me it makes no sense not to. Also, the Beretta, Springfield XD's, and S&W M&P's are all fine firearms.

    My last, last piece of advice: Don't take advice from a bunch of guys on the internet!!! Take care, be safe, and good luck. Let us know what you get...
    Thanks!!!! Thing is, Beretta's are cheaper than Glocks in my area. I'm going to the range this weekend and will try out a Beretta and the S&W. Sig's seem nice but that seems to be another few hundred bucks that any of the arms I was speaking of.

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    The sheriff's dept. by me just purchased 631 Glocks for their dept................reason being....$231 a piece........in talking to a few...not their first weapon of choice, and I see a lot of sheriff's and LE carrying HK's and Sigs.
    Quote Originally Posted by TheLAGuy View Post
    So why does the military and law enforcement all carry Glocks? Kinda curious for that one. I'm still undecided guys, I'm going back to the range this weekend and try a few options. Possibly even a S&W 9mm... Any advice is greatly appreciated.

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    A glock to the public are about $580 around here. They got a "bro deal".

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