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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve M1911A1 View Post
    ...Well, for the very furthest you can shoot, you'd have to use an angle of 45 from average horizontal—unless the bullet will enter the stratosphere, in which case 55 worked for the Germans who shelled Paris during WW1.
    If you launch a .45 ACP slug at, say, 850fps, and at 45, I am not convinced that it would even approach 1,000 yards.
    DJ Niner, do you want to do that calculation?
    Well, I ran the numbers, and I have to admit I was surprised. The 'ol .45 with hardball did a lot better than I thought it would!

    First, a bit of info on the program I'm using: you enter the bullet weight, ballistic coefficient, and the muzzle velocity, and the program outputs the departure angle needed to reach maximum distance, along with what that distance will be. So, here's the info on the .45 ACP, 230 grain FMJ, 850 FPS:



    1926 yards (I believe that is the measurement to first impact); quite a bit better than I thought it would be!
    More than a mile, and darn close to 2000 yards! But as long as the bad guy stays on the far side of those 20 football fields, he is safe.
    However, if you are within a couple more football fields, you are still in danger (?) from a 9mm armed opponent!
    (well, whatever "danger" is projected by 22.3 ft/lbs of bullet energy). To save yourself from a bump on the head, all you have to do is
    watch for the muzzle flash; from that point, you have about 21 seconds to get under cover or leave the area completely:





    Note: While playing around with the program, I detected what I believe is a problem with some of the computations, and I've sent a message to the programmer providing details, in hopes he can explain what is going on. In the meantime, I think most of the info above is pretty close to correct, in an "average-of-averages" way (I ran the numbers 50-60 different ways, and only a few combinations came up with weird results).
    "Placement is power" -- seen in an article by Stephen A. Camp
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    Cool,thanks for the info DJ.The 45 is surprizing,I expected a larger gap between it and the 9.

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    I'm thinking it would take more than a handgun round to kill a shipping container.

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    I'm surprised at the departure angle of 32.5, rather than 45.
    I'm also surprised at how close the .45 would get, to 2,000 yards.

    At a terminal velocity of about 300fps, the bullet might even cause some damage!

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    Re: 1000 yard handgun shot

    Best i have done is on a whitetail vitals sized steel target at 420 yards with a G-19. (well, and the 45-70, but you said pistol)

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    Quote Originally Posted by rex View Post
    Cool,thanks for the info DJ.The 45 is surprizing,I expected a larger gap between it and the 9.
    So did I. Apparently, that heavy-bullet momentum really helps it "carry."


    Quote Originally Posted by paratrooper View Post
    I'm thinking it would take more than a handgun round to kill a shipping container.
    Probably wouldn't even chip the paint at that range, but I bet you could hear the "Bong!" when it hit!

    Quote Originally Posted by Steve M1911A1 View Post
    I'm surprised at the departure angle of 32.5, rather than 45.
    I'm also surprised at how close the .45 would get, to 2,000 yards.

    At a terminal velocity of about 300fps, the bullet might even cause some damage!
    Raise a knot on your noggin', that's for sure.

    Quote Originally Posted by niadhf View Post
    Best i have done is on a whitetail vitals sized steel target at 420 yards with a G-19. (well, and the 45-70, but you said pistol)
    Darn good shootin'!
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    Re: 1000 yard handgun shot

    Quote Originally Posted by DJ Niner View Post

    Darn good shootin'!
    Darn good work by my spotter. Of course we wefe hittin a human sized target at 305 first. And the 420 with the -G-19 was not a one shot like the H&R Buffalo Classic was (45-70)

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    I think this could be done. I wouldn't be able to do it, I have problems with the 50 yard shots.

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    Well it all depends on how BIG the shipping container is , is it a cardboard mailing Box Or a over sea's container @ 53' by 102" Dat's A Good Question . I Don't Think I Could Do it either Way with a H.G.

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    Gorris and borris... Are you guys related?

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