The only legal choice the patrons had was to cover their loved ones and pray.
I agree with Steve, concealed means concealed.
I also agree with BB in that, when someone threatens me with Shotgun, I am going to engage him as soon as I can and shoot him to the ground.
berettabone,Originally Posted by berettabone
Every situation is or can be different and it's strictly left up to the individual to decide. Everyone has a different point of stress that will determine what action they will take to defend themselves. Good training can/will help with these decisions.
Wow,completely forgot this thread.Farfignugen (yeah,spelling) Nah
Sorry,couldn't resist that.
It is law enforcements job to stop a robbery, but if your life is being threatened that's when it's up to the individual to defend themself.Originally Posted by berettabone
The situation that I was given was being in a gas station and someone walks in and starts to rob the place. If I'm in the back of the store, I should call 911 and stay out of sight, until help arrives. However, that changes if you are spotted and become part of the robbery. This was the suggestion of my instructor.
Staying out of sight and/or not getting involved, in reality, could be two entirely different things. Let's face it, a million scenerios could be played out, but what actually happens and how each person reacts to it makes for far too many possibilities.
Gun buster signs and personal property rights have been and are debated furiously.
Generally the federal government leaves it up to the states to decide. Same thing with employers who do not allow their employees to carry firearms. Whether they post for liability reasons or personal choice it is still there property. Some states like Wisconsin address this issue in their statutes exempting the employer from liability if they choose to allow their employees to carry a firearm and any acts resulting from the employee. I do not know if this would/could be extended to customers entering with a firearm or acts caused by them I don't think I would want to be the test case though.
Remember though by legal definition you are not a customer you are an "Invitee" when you enter and the status of invitee is only valid as long as you follow the business owners request. Businesses owned by an individual or corporate entity are private property and they have the right to say what comes onto that property as long as it does not violate the discrimination laws of the protected classes.
If a business is posted and carries the weight of law and you decide to carry you simply face the consequences should you be discovered if they don't carry the weight of law do whatever you think is best. It all depends on how you view the business owners rights.