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    Hi, names Matt. Iv been shooting on and off for 13 years. And I was wondering someone might have an answer to a question I have. If you give me 2 guns same make and model ie( USPC 9mm & USPC 40sw, Sig P229 9mm & P229 40sw, or even a 1911) I can shoot pretty close to lights out with the higher calibers. But with the 9mm I am struggling to just stay on target. Any suggestions/ideas/theories?

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    A lot would depend on the ammo you are using...JJ

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    I would tend to agree with that,it is odd.If they weren't the same base gun I'd say the gun just doesn't work for you,but that's not the case.If this was tested with only a few guns,it could be a combination of the way the barrel was fit and finding the ammo that gun likes,so maybe a larger selection of guns can change the outcome.The 9 is a fairly accurate round,but barrel groove diameter is quite varried.Last I knew the range was from .354 to .357 but the .357 is pretty rare.If you are shooting guns with a bore on the large side,you're getting alot of blowby with jacketed bullets which is detrimental to the accuracy potential of the barrel.My Beretta is on the large side,it's fine with FMJ,but TMJ (base is jacketed too) won't obturate and seal the bore so accuracy falls off.

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    I shoot the larger calibers better than I shoot the smaller calibers also...not counting .22 cal.....don't know what it is either???????

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    I think it might have to do with your grip.

    Folks tend to keep a more firm grip on harder-kicking calibers because of the recoil, and I've found the inverse is also true; they get a little "sloppy/loose" when shooting smaller calibers, even in the same size/model guns. I know I experience a similar effect when shooting revolvers in Double-Action vs. Single-Action (thumb-cocked) modes; I shoot MUCH better DA, at ALL distances, and years ago I chalked it up to a firmer, more consistent grip that is needed to shoot DA rapidly with good control. In SA, the trigger pull is so light that I just don't need to hang on as tightly to keep the sights on target against the heavy DA pull weight, and so I loosen my grip, and then my shot group (usually) spreads out a bit.

    I've seen the same thing with new shooters who haven't yet developed the muscles needed to support and control a handgun; as they get tired, their grip pressure falls off, and their groups begin to scatter.

    Try using a consistently firmer grip with the smaller caliber handguns, and see if it makes a difference.
    "Placement is power" -- seen in an article by Stephen A. Camp
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    Oddly, I shoot my 10mm Glock 20 more accurately than anything else, at 25 yards, and it has considerably more recoil and a rougher trigger than my .45's, 9mm's, and about the same or maybe a little more than my .357 Magnum revolvers. With me, it is a concentration thing.

    Something about controlling the extra power makes me more deliberate and I seem to concentrate more.

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    I too seem to shoot better with larger calibers.

    I've always written it off to shooting slower with the larger calibers.


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    Assuming reasonably accurate gun and ammo, after you get past the basics of handgun shooting (sight alignment/sight picture) it gets down primarily to steadiness, the grip and trigger pull. I put the most emphasis on trigger pull, because bad trigger control will offset all the others.

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