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  1. 03-20-2012, 08:14 PM #1
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    Frightening Experience

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    Been awhile, but I just wanted to share a very frightening experience that happened about a wk ago at our local indoor range.
    As one of the R.O's at our local gun club/range on Monday nites, I get the opportunity to see a wide VARIETY of different handgun make & models. So on the side in my spare time I take the time to "google" the crap out the various models and visit dedicated websites. I get asked ALL sorts of questions from gun owners (especially newbs) about "their" guns.

    Well last Monday we had a member come in with what LOOKED like a TAURUS Judge. - ok np- we actually couldn't find a manufacturer's stamp. The only exception was that it shot 45-70 rnds. -- (new one on me) He'd picked it up at a local pawn shop earlier that day and bought some really "off-brand" ammo.
    The other 2 R.O's and I discussed the gun and it's caliber and decided that it was ok to shoot. (range requirement/rule) We let him "load-up" and commence on the next active firing line.
    Again - NP. The gun fired/shot what appeared to be normally, and the owner seemed to have a good "handle" on it. So I moved on down the line and directed my attention to helping another "newb" with his new 1911.

    About 5min later................KABOOM!!!!! This is the result below:

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  3. 03-21-2012, 08:57 AM #2
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    Looks a lot more like a magnum research BFR in 45-70

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    .30/30 Winchester with 10" barrel has a twist rate of 10, groove diameter of 0.308 and weighs 5.3 pounds.
    .444 Marlin with 10" barrel has a twist rate of 16, groove diameter of 0.429 and weighs 4.8 pounds.
    .45 Long Colt/.410 with 7.5" barrel has a twist rate of 20, groove diameter of 0.451 and weighs 4.5 pounds.
    .45/70 Gov't with 7.5" barrel has a twist rate of 14, groove diameter of 0.458 and weighs 4.3 pounds.
    .45/70 Gov't with 10" barrel has a twist rate of 14, groove diameter of 0.458 and weighs 4.7 pounds.
    .450 Marlin with 10" barrel has a twist rate of 14, groove diameter of 0.458 and weighs 4.7 pounds.
    .460 S&W Magnum with 7.5" barrel has a twist rate of 16, groove diameter of 0.451 and weighs 4.3 pounds.
    .460 S&W Magnum with 10" barrel has a twist rate of 16, groove diameter of 0.451 and weighs 4.7 pounds.
    .500 S&W Magnum with a 7.5" barrel has a twist rate of 15, groove diameter of 0.500 and weighs 4.5 pounds.
    .500 S&W Magnum with a 10" barrel have a twist rate of 15, groove diameter of 0.500 and weighs 4.7 pounds.
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  4. 03-21-2012, 09:56 AM #3
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    the BFR is a single action revolver, that thing looks like a DA, I know I've seen it before but I just can't place it...looks like a Phillipino casting job
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    The MIL Inc. Thunder 5.
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  6. 03-21-2012, 02:30 PM #5
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    Holy hell! That thing wasn't made to shoot 45-70 isn't it?
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  7. 03-21-2012, 02:34 PM #6
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    Quote Originally Posted by SigmaBoy View Post
    Holy hell! That thing wasn't made to shoot 45-70 isn't it?
    Some were.
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  8. 03-21-2012, 04:15 PM #7
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    Quote Originally Posted by VAMarine View Post
    the BFR is a single action revolver, that thing looks like a DA, I know I've seen it before but I just can't place it...looks like a Phillipino casting job
    Well, i'll think i'm gonna pass on any Phillipino casting jobs, even if it were 4150 steel, look at the thin pot metal cylinder walls on that baby, and shooting a 45-70 rifle cartridge, probably some very crappy ammo was the cause.
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  9. 03-27-2012, 07:02 PM #8
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    An excellent example of why I won't buy a Taurus.
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  10. 03-28-2012, 02:08 AM #9
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    Good name brands are sure worth the extra cash, especially seeing this. Would a reputable brand make an unmarked gun like that? Maybe a proto-type/testing model?

    Anyway, under the assumption that everyone was ok, I would be/am glad to hear it.
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  11. 03-28-2012, 08:11 AM #10
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    Quote Originally Posted by paratrooper View Post
    An excellent example of why I won't buy a Taurus.
    It wasn't a Taurus.

    Quote Originally Posted by NewinSD View Post
    Good name brands are sure worth the extra cash, especially seeing this. Would a reputable brand make an unmarked gun like that? Maybe a proto-type/testing model?

    Anyway, under the assumption that everyone was ok, I would be/am glad to hear it.

    Every example I've seen of the Thunder 5 has markings on the barrel, even in the picture above, you can see the "oval" on the barrel where the caliber marking should be.
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  12. 03-28-2012, 06:44 PM #11
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    Aren't most more pronounced that just a single shape of the barrel? All the guns I've looked at had the manufacturer, country of origin, and serial number in easy to see text.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NewinSD View Post
    Aren't most more pronounced that just a single shape of the barrel? All the guns I've looked at had the manufacturer, country of origin, and serial number in easy to see text.

    I'm not saying anyyhing about the shape of the barrel, on the barrel there is an oval, in that oval is where the caliber is shown. The marking for the gun itself, make/model are on the part of the gun that is no longer there due to the gun exploding.
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    OK,

    This is a picture of the gun (not the .45-70 model) so we can get an idea of what it looked like before explosion.



    On the barrel you can see the caliber, above the cylinder you see "Thunder Five" on the other side you'd see MIL INC who was the manufacturer.
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  15. 03-29-2012, 03:02 AM #14
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    Oh, guess that makes sense. With a shorter barrel they have to place all the markings differently that a full size semi-auto. Not looking to do anything with revolvers yet, so I haven't looked at them much.

    Thanks for the knowledge.
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    Don't know what brand the gun is or the ammo used but those are definitely cast parts that came apart. Can't imagine any good handgun built like the one pictured.
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