View Poll Results: Which is the safest?

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  • Brain/Mindset

    48 77.42%
  • A firearm with all of the typical 1911 safeties

    3 4.84%
  • A Glock's safe-action trigger, or similar mechanism

    1 1.61%
  • A firearm with one manual safety

    2 3.23%
  • Muscle memory from sufficient training, no thinking required

    0 0%
  • A firearm with a Bio-safety (DNA analysis, fingerprint recognition, etc.)

    0 0%
  • No safety is needed, guns and shooters are flawless without

    0 0%
  • No gun is safe, except for the one in the scrap pile

    8 12.90%
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Thread: Firearms Safety

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    This page from CMP,Has some Important Safety Tips...And for you new shooters on here,Their are a lot of good people on here,That know a lot about firearms.So your on the best forum on the web. Your in good hands.

    Safety

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    Interesting changes to gun syntax:

    Toolchest=gunsafe;
    Toolbox=portable handgun safe;
    Toolbelt=gun holster;
    Tool bag=Range Bag;
    Powertool=semi-automatic gun;
    handtool=single shot gun;
    rotary tool=revolver;
    air tools=airsoft gun;
    safety goggles=shooting glasses;
    safety vest=concealment;
    cutting tool=combat knife;
    impact tool=full automatic gun;
    multitool=multi-barrel gun;

    You get the idea...

    Firearms are weapons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cclaxton View Post
    Interesting changes to gun syntax:

    Toolchest=gunsafe;
    Toolbox=portable handgun safe;
    Toolbelt=gun holster;
    Tool bag=Range Bag;
    Powertool=semi-automatic gun;
    handtool=single shot gun;
    rotary tool=revolver;
    air tools=airsoft gun;
    safety goggles=shooting glasses;
    safety vest=concealment;
    cutting tool=combat knife;
    impact tool=full automatic gun;
    multitool=multi-barrel gun;

    You get the idea...

    Firearms are weapons.
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    rocks are weapons too..... quarry = ammo dump

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    Sticks can also be used as weapons. Following Ted's unassailable logic, a forest can be seen as a weapons factory.
    A kitchen, then, is an arsenal.
    Assault vehicles are to be found in your garage.
    Bedrooms are repositories of strangulation devices.
    Shall I go on, Mr. Claxton?

    Danger is not endemic to any object. Any object, no matter how innocent its purpose, can easily be converted into a weapon.
    A "weapon," therefore, is not in the eye of the beholder, but rather in the hand, and mind, of the user.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve M1911A1 View Post
    Sticks can also be used as weapons. Following Ted's unassailable logic, a forest can be seen as a weapons factory.
    A kitchen, then, is an arsenal.
    Assault vehicles are to be found in your garage.
    Bedrooms are repositories of strangulation devices.
    Shall I go on, Mr. Claxton?

    Danger is not endemic to any object. Any object, no matter how innocent its purpose, can easily be converted into a weapon.
    A "weapon," therefore, is not in the eye of the beholder, but rather in the hand, and mind, of the user.
    a very wise woman once wrote:

    Any tool is a weapon IF you hold it right.

    Ani DiFranco

    she has an amazing grasp of reality , and some cant even grasp the obvious.

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    Steve... dangerous or deadly are terms used to define the proximity of a human ( or item of value to a human) to a situation that puts said human or item at risk..... it is NOT inherant, but relative to the probability of said risk happening.

    dioxin is toxic as in inherent property, a constant.... but its not deadly or dangerous even unless we humans contact it.

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    A licorice rope is dangerous... in the hands of a three-year-old. I now have a licorice welt!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Holly View Post
    A licorice rope is dangerous... in the hands of a three-year-old. I now have a licorice welt!
    but in the package, it is not dangerous, just inherently nasty!

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    So is the object (stick, rock, knife, gun, ect. ect.) dangerous? Or is it the individual using the object that is dangerous? Seem to me, even from what I am reading here, that these "weapons" are just objects, and while all have the potential to dangerous it takes a human, through lack of foresight and use of a few basic mental guidelines or with intent to harm to actually cause any of these things to do anything at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sgms View Post
    So is the object (stick, rock, knife, gun, ect. ect.) dangerous? Or is it the individual using the object that is dangerous? Seem to me, even from what I am reading here, that these "weapons" are just objects, and while all have the potential to dangerous it takes a human, through lack of foresight and use of a few basic mental guidelines or with intent to harm to actually cause any of these things to do anything at all.
    Little kid picks up handgun and shoots dad....was it the unsafe kid or the unsafe gun?...
    Answer, the gun was unsafe for the kid to hold.
    If the kid would have unloaded the firearm the shooting wouldn't have happened. If the kid had the safety ON or a gun with a safety and it was ON, the shooting would have been less likely. Oh, that's right...its the kids fault! Look at all the other adults with negligent discharges....

    The point here is that loaded firearms are dangerous...AND it takes a properly trained responsible adult to know how to handle them safely. Second point is that If ALL THINGS ARE EVEN....different guns are safer than others.
    Firearm Negligence - YouTube
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    Quote Originally Posted by cclaxton View Post
    Little kid picks up handgun and shoots dad....was it the unsafe kid or the unsafe gun?...
    Answer, the gun was unsafe for the kid to hold.
    If the kid would have unloaded the firearm the shooting wouldn't have happened. If the kid had the safety ON or a gun with a safety and it was ON, the shooting would have been less likely. Oh, that's right...its the kids fault! Look at all the other adults with negligent discharges....

    The point here is that loaded firearms are dangerous...AND it takes a properly trained responsible adult to know how to handle them safely. Second point is that If ALL THINGS ARE EVEN....different guns are safer than others.
    Firearm Negligence - YouTube

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    seriously??? the GUN did it? the GUN? unreal.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by TedDeBearFrmHell View Post
    seriously??? the GUN did it? the GUN? unreal.....
    Here is what I wrote: "the gun was unsafe for the kid to hold."
    Firearms are inherently dangerous and the kid proved it.
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    i just unloaded every gun in my safe before they killed someone..... thank god i got to them in time, i think they were hatching a plot.

    in the morning i will dull all of my kitchen knives, take the chain off the chainsaw and run my louisville slugger thru the wood chipper. tomorrow my neighborhood will be just that much safer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cclaxton View Post
    Here is what I wrote: "the gun was unsafe for the kid to hold."
    Firearms are inherently dangerous and the kid proved it.
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    thought the kid was dangerous and proved it....

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    What I got from these last few posts is that PARENTS are unsafe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cclaxton View Post
    Little kid picks up handgun and shoots dad....was it the unsafe kid or the unsafe gun?...
    Answer, the gun was unsafe for the kid to hold.
    If the kid would have unloaded the firearm the shooting wouldn't have happened. If the kid had the safety ON or a gun with a safety and it was ON, the shooting would have been less likely. Oh, that's right...its the kids fault! Look at all the other adults with negligent discharges....

    The point here is that loaded firearms are dangerous...AND it takes a properly trained responsible adult to know how to handle them safely. Second point is that If ALL THINGS ARE EVEN....different guns are safer than others.
    Firearm Negligence - YouTube
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    We have a weekly steel shoot open to the public and you are not allowed to have your finger on the trigger unless you are actually shooting. It must be outside the trigger guard when moving or reloading. You would not believe how many highly trained people including LEOs are warned every week about this one infraction. It surprises me that more people are not hurt with firearms. I'm going to the Western States Singlestack Championship this weekend and they won't warn you. You just get DQ'd and cannot shoot anymore on the course. Wish me luck. When my arthritis acts up (like when I'm taking a pounding from 200 power 45's in my 1911) my fingers tend to curl in so it will be a challenge as I run from target to target.

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    It's interesting how rules change.

    Long ago, when I was involved in IPSC, nobody cared where your trigger finger was, while you were moving or otherwise. But if you had a negligent discharge, you were instantly disqualified.


    Quote Originally Posted by Holly View Post
    What I got from these last few posts is that PARENTS are unsafe.
    Yeah. Truth!
    Instead of licensing guns, people should have to pass a test, and be licensed, to be allowed to make children.
    Further, divorce should be easy, but getting married should be difficult.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve M1911A1 View Post
    Yeah. Truth!
    Instead of licensing guns, people should have to pass a test, and be licensed, to be allowed to make children.
    Further, divorce should be easy, but getting married should be difficult.
    Agreed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve M1911A1 View Post
    It's interesting how rules change.

    Long ago, when I was involved in IPSC, nobody cared where your trigger finger was, while you were moving or otherwise. But if you had a negligent discharge, you were instantly disqualified.

    In the USPSA rulebook under sections 10.5.8 and 10.5.9, 10.5.10 and 8.5.1 . There's lots of rules now for safety.

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    The brain is your ultimate safety........or "keep your booger picker off the boom switch till you're ready to shoot"

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