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  • Sig P238

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  • Kahr

    7 9.86%
  • Bodyguard

    8 11.27%
  • Other

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    Well I just purchased a used P380 ..it shoots 100%..
    Like my Kahr PM9 ..
    I like it more than any other 380 I've had ..
    PPK ..sold ..to big per the caliber
    LCP ..wifes gun
    P238 ..sold ..locked & cocked not for me..

    After getting use to the trigger ..Kahrs are amazing guns

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    Quote Originally Posted by HCSO279 View Post
    I have purchased the Sig P238 and the Kahr P380. I am probably dumb for buying two, but I couldn't decide. The Kahr is on a platform that I am more comfortable and well versed in. The Sig, being an SAO, is something that I will practice, until I am proficient, before I carry. Let me know what you think, but please be nice. I took all of your opinions to heart and really bought what I felt the best about.

    Thanks Everyone!
    So it's been a while since you got your guns. How are you liking them?

    I did not offer an opinion on this thread earlier, so my input here is admittedly late. Last Oct/Nov I was on the hunt for a small 380. I tried (rented and shot at the range) both of the guns that you purchased as well as the CZ83 and the Bersa Thunder. I didn't try the LCP, Kel-tec or anything that small because I knew that I wouldn't feel comfortable with them. I did not try the Walther PPK because the guys working at the range convinced me that they were very unreliable and over-priced (plus their rental was not functioning).

    I ended up with the Bersa Thunder 380. I liked the feel, the size, trigger, features, recoil, I shot well with it, and I didn't experience any issues. The others didn't feel as comfortable or perform as well for me. No quality or performance complaints about the others, they just didn't fit me as well. Bonus... the Bersa is very inexpensive -- less than $300 for the all black version. I've since learned that all of the other guns I tried were at least twice that price. I has some feed issues during the first 100 rounds (break-in), but it's been flawless for the many hundreds of rounds that have followed. I really enjoy it.

    If you have doubts about your choice or are looking for a 3rd 380, I recommend you take a look at the Bersa.

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    Hi HCSO:

    Have you considered a revolver? We just purchased my girlfriend a Ruger LCR in 38 special (not 357) for $399. I reload for her and have shot it extensively and really like it. It's super, super light, reliable as dirt, butter smooth trigger, and accurate as all heck. I cut one ragged hole at 20 feet. When I put it in the front pocket of my jeans, I quite literally forget it's there. It's that light! IMHO a 38 special is better than a 357 for CC. I can guarantee that I can double tap center mass much quicker with a 38 special. Skill, not caliber, is what's important. I have a Ruger Redhawk and GP100. But if I were CC'ing, it would be the LCR in 38 Special. Here is a very informative video on it. It's very controllable and extremely accurate. The guy in the video is shooting at some seriously distant targets with this snubby. My 67 year old girlfriend has no trouble with it's recoil. She gotten pretty good with it. I pity the sole she drops the hammer on. We both prefer revolvers. There just more intuitive for us (no safeties or feed issues to deal with) and quicker to deploy and shoot accurately.

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    The heck with all this talk about guns...
    I wanna come over and use that shooting gallery in your video!
    Wow!



    We'll be away visiting our brand-new granddaughter.
    See you on July 7th.

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    It appears you won't go wrong with any of those guns. My 380 is a Bersa Thunder and it is reliable, accurate and not at all expensive. It shoots JHPs every bit as well as FMJs. It is the gun I used to qualify for CHL and is my carry gun.

    I've also checked out the Sig 238 and the Colt Mustang. So now the question is do I need two 380's or do I need three?

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    My take is this: Both the Bersa and the PPK/PPKS are quality weapons. The Bersa is cheaper; the Walther is prettier.

    And who amongst you does not admire a pretty handgun?

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    And now for my 2 cents.All are great choices but dont forget the CZ-82.It is 9x18,kinda like a +p .380,12+1 capacity(25 rounds with a spare mag),C&R eligible,proven military and police weapon,And J&G sells it for 229.95.

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    when u find out what 380 you would like, give me a call and i will see how much i can save you.
    i have shot the bodyguard, it has a long trigger pull.
    i am a new dealer i will give you a good price, my name is Don 513-253-5188

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    Re: Help! I need help deciding what 380 to purchase.

    Having been in a similar situation looking at .380's... my research and trials have led me to the Sig P238... the premier .380 in my opinion. Strong enough to hold up to repeated range use for years. A lot pricier than others mentioned, but you get what you pay for... a pleasure to shoot.

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    If you're going to consider the SIG P238 you might just as well consider the SIG P938, a slightly larger 9mm. That takes away the ".380 is too small" argument and initiates the "friends dont let friends buy guns that dont start with a .4" argument, in which case, the Springfield XDS .45 is your best bet.

    Just thought I'd throw that out there.

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    Help! I need help deciding what 380 to purchase.

    I recommend three .380's: the Bersa Thunder Combat; the Beretta 84 FS; and the Beretta 85 FS. My Bodyguard .380 is the only S&W "problem child" I've ever had and cannot recommend it as an EDC firearm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TAPnRACK View Post
    Having been in a similar situation looking at .380's... my research and trials have led me to the Sig P238... the premier .380 in my opinion. Strong enough to hold up to repeated range use for years. A lot pricier than others mentioned, but you get what you pay for... a pleasure to shoot.
    is there a half cock position on that sig 238,

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    hey chief, what dont you like about the bodyguard?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pic View Post
    is there a half cock position on that sig 238,
    I don't know the answer, in terms of the SIG 238. But I do know about the 1911 platform, and its clones.

    If there is a "half-cock" notch on the 238's hammer, most probably it really is not a half-cock notch. Putting the sear-nose into that notch will not make the pistol safe.
    The "half-cock" notch on any 1911 clone serves only to catch the falling hammer, if the user bobbles the thumb-cocking operation starting from Condition Two.
    (If the instruction-book which accompanies a 238 contradicts me, then, in that case only, I stand corrected.)

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    Re: Help! I need help deciding what 380 to purchase.

    Yes.... the Sig P238's hammer does go in a half cocked position.

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    Help! I need help deciding what 380 to purchase.

    Quote Originally Posted by batcat View Post
    hey chief, what dont you like about the bodyguard?
    The Insight laser set screw will back out of its seat (even with blue loctite applied) after putting several hundred rounds through it in a single range session. This will disable the slide "return" function, keeping the firearm out of battery and make it very difficult to disassemble the pistol. I realize this little pistol probably wasn't made for this punishment, but I will only trust my safety to a firearm that will routinely perform flawlessly under these conditions. All the other firearms I own do so without a problem. I'm very leery of recommending the BG 380 to others until I have several successful extended range sessions with the "new & improved" screw in place under my belt. It troubles me because I love S&W firearms (own many of them). I also can't believe S&W hasn't done more to address this well documented design flaw. BTW - taking the BG to the range today - will provide an update.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cclaxton View Post
    I voted OTHER. However, any of the three you listed would be fine, and I would prefer the Kahr out of those three.
    But, if you are looking for a good .380 for CC, I would look at the Cz-83 before making a final decision. It holds has an excellent trigger, 12 rounds, and has a longer barrel, is full SA/DA and mag release and manual safety. You can run it cocked and locked or decocked. The recoil is very easily managed because of the 28oz weight.

    Another one to consider is the Bersa Thunder380CC....alloy frame, 7+1 rounds, excellent trigger, slim width, small size overall, lightweight, accurate, excellent sights, and inexpensive. The same design as a Walther PPK, which is another one to consider although I don't like the weight of the Walther. But it is a great carry gun as well.

    I don't like the Beretta 380's due to weight and the mag release is not on the grip, but at the bottom of the mag. The P238 is nice, but like other have said, you really need to holster it properly to carry it. That precludes pocket carry unless you use a pocket holster. Also, the Sig is a lot of money for a .380.

    Check out USAammo.com for inexpensive .380 target ammo. I recommend the MagTech HollowPoints as a good value for self-defense ammo. Also, the Winchester Ranger T-Series and Hornady XTP are great but pricier.

    I also own a Bodyguard .380 and it is perfect to keep between the mattress and boxspring for the girlfriend, and easy to carry in the summer when I can't really conceal my Kahr PM9, my primary carry.

    If you can handle the size and weight of the Cz, I would go for that, but if you want lighter and smaller, the Kahr is your best choice, and if pocket carry then the bodyguard .380.
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    The wording there is a bit ambiguous. Is the intent the girlfriend would know there is a weapon handy should she need it or do you anticipate needing a gun to defend yourself against your girlfriend? Certainly a valid case can be made for both. If you are gone and she is alone in your bed she may well need access to it for protection. If she is gone and you are not alone in your bed you may well need it for protection from her when she arrives unannounced. There are certainly other possibilities for the meaning behind what was written, particularly if you are married! Though it is a good idea to keep posts brief and to the point, sometimes a few extra words are a really good idea.

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    Help! I need help deciding what 380 to purchase.

    Quote Originally Posted by batcat View Post
    hey chief, what dont you like about the bodyguard?
    Update for batcat and anyone else who may be interested: I put 325 rounds downrange through the BG 380 this morning in under 2 hours - this was the pistol's debut with the new screw (fortified with a dab of blue Loctite and torqued down with the new wrench). For the first time with this pistol that I've owned for 3 months, I got that "I love my Smitties" feeling. Hopefully, this performance will continue.

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    I had to go with "other" here. As far as the mouse gun .380's go, I still believe that the Ruger LCP is one of the best on the market. The Bodyguard is pretty good, with the laser and all, but it's kinda "busy" with slide stops and safeties and all. Lets face it, a gun like this just needs to come out quick and put bullets on the bad guy efficiently, and at a distance of ten to fifteen feet, I think the laser and all the extra controls just make things more complicated - even in low light. This of course is just my humble opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigCityChief View Post
    Update for batcat and anyone else who may be interested: I put 325 rounds downrange through the BG 380 this morning in under 2 hours - this was the pistol's debut with the new screw (fortified with a dab of blue Loctite and torqued down with the new wrench). For the first time with this pistol that I've owned for 3 months, I got that "I love my Smitties" feeling. Hopefully, this performance will continue.

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