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    The guys in the shop where just showing they don't know what they are talking about. Its probably only in America you would get such a comment about 9mm. The 9mm verses .45 seams to be an american thing. The rest of the world knows that 9mm is more than adequate.

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    Up in Montana we call smaller calibers pea shooters. My dad has even called a 9mm a pea shooter. I had to correct him and tell him it's a bit bigger than a pea shooter. He relented that it was a "bit" bigger but not much. The way this is decided is by the price of ammo. If you can shoot it a lot then it's a pea shooter.

    If I was in that situation I would have been telling them it's a little bigger than a bb gun, but it's still cheap for what I use it for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by manta View Post
    The guys in the shop where just showing they don't know what they are talking about. Its probably only in America you would get such a comment about 9mm. The 9mm verses .45 seams to be an american thing. The rest of the world knows that 9mm is more than adequate.
    That's what my Serbian friends say. The 9 works just fine. They were issued an AK-47 and a 9mm pistol and got into some nasty fights and survived. When they saw my 45s they laughed but they really like them. Guys are always into that bigger is probably better thing.

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    For what it's worth, here's an interesting read:9mm vs

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    When I came back to shooting after a layoff of many years, I started with a 9mm, and frankly I love the caliber, although I've gotten into .45 and .22lr in addition, more recently. When I was just starting, though, at least a half dozen self-appointed wits regaled me with their pirated lines about " a 9mm is just a .45 set to stun". After hearing that several times, I told one of them that 9mms had stunned a lot of people over the years, and it was amazing how many of them STAYED stunned. He just stared.

    If I ran that shop, I wouldn't want my people treating customers like that.

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    Well, I went back to the store today, ONLY because the ammo is a few dollars cheaper and I have a coupon on top of that for a percent off store purchases. Guess who helped at the gun counter.......yep, the comment man. Well, I asked about a couple shotguns and a couple rifles, then asked what he recommended in a handgun caliber because I was thinking of purchasing another. He went straight to .45. I asked why, he simply replied "bigger is better. You dont wanna shoot BB's when you can shoot an actual bullet." Ok. Wow. I asked if that is what he shot. Folks, he doesn't even own a gun. He said he has never owned one, and has shot once in his life with his brother-in-law. I stared. And stared. I stared longer, until he asked what was wrong. I shook my head to snap out of the amazement I was in and asked for 3 Remington UMC 250 count boxes, 3 boxes of Winchester, and a box of Winchester FMJHP, all my 9mm ammo. I said thats all. He walked them up to the front counter and put them down and told the register girl they were for me. There is always a manager up front by the register, she happened to be the register girl. He asked if there was anything else. I said "yep, I was waiting for another smart remark. Last time I was in here, you commented about my choice of ammo and it being BB's. Just now you called them BB's again and it's not an actual bullet. Just thought you had more to say." The Manager looked back at him. She tried talking to me but I interrupted and said I know she is trying to make right for her customers wrongs, but at this point it's too late. I will give you my email and phone number and we can discuss it later, I was leaving. And I pointed out I was leaving all that ammo I was set to purchase, which I was before his comment. After he said that I just wanted him to lug all that heavy ammo up front and give him a bit of his own medicine. By the time I got home, I had an email from the manager with more coupons for the store than I can use in coming months, along with an apology. So will I be shopping there again, oh yes, ammo just got cheaper for me there, will I be dealing with that guy anymore, Im sure he wont even look my way when I go in. What a D-bag....

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirt.diver View Post
    Well, I went back to the store today, ONLY because the ammo is a few dollars cheaper and I have a coupon on top of that for a percent off store purchases. Guess who helped at the gun counter.......yep, the comment man. Well, I asked about a couple shotguns and a couple rifles, then asked what he recommended in a handgun caliber because I was thinking of purchasing another. He went straight to .45. I asked why, he simply replied "bigger is better. You dont wanna shoot BB's when you can shoot an actual bullet." Ok. Wow. I asked if that is what he shot. Folks, he doesn't even own a gun. He said he has never owned one, and has shot once in his life with his brother-in-law. I stared. And stared. I stared longer, until he asked what was wrong. I shook my head to snap out of the amazement I was in and asked for 3 Remington UMC 250 count boxes, 3 boxes of Winchester, and a box of Winchester FMJHP, all my 9mm ammo. I said thats all. He walked them up to the front counter and put them down and told the register girl they were for me. There is always a manager up front by the register, she happened to be the register girl. He asked if there was anything else. I said "yep, I was waiting for another smart remark. Last time I was in here, you commented about my choice of ammo and it being BB's. Just now you called them BB's again and it's not an actual bullet. Just thought you had more to say." The Manager looked back at him. She tried talking to me but I interrupted and said I know she is trying to make right for her customers wrongs, but at this point it's too late. I will give you my email and phone number and we can discuss it later, I was leaving. And I pointed out I was leaving all that ammo I was set to purchase, which I was before his comment. After he said that I just wanted him to lug all that heavy ammo up front and give him a bit of his own medicine. By the time I got home, I had an email from the manager with more coupons for the store than I can use in coming months, along with an apology. So will I be shopping there again, oh yes, ammo just got cheaper for me there, will I be dealing with that guy anymore, Im sure he wont even look my way when I go in. What a D-bag....
    buy your ammo elsewhere and then send her the receipt to show how much her dolt employee cost her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirt.diver View Post
    Well, I went back to the store today, ONLY because the ammo is a few dollars cheaper and I have a coupon on top of that for a percent off store purchases. Guess who helped at the gun counter.......yep, the comment man. Well, I asked about a couple shotguns and a couple rifles, then asked what he recommended in a handgun caliber because I was thinking of purchasing another. He went straight to .45. I asked why, he simply replied "bigger is better. You dont wanna shoot BB's when you can shoot an actual bullet." Ok. Wow. I asked if that is what he shot. Folks, he doesn't even own a gun. He said he has never owned one, and has shot once in his life with his brother-in-law. I stared. And stared. I stared longer, until he asked what was wrong. I shook my head to snap out of the amazement I was in and asked for 3 Remington UMC 250 count boxes, 3 boxes of Winchester, and a box of Winchester FMJHP, all my 9mm ammo. I said thats all. He walked them up to the front counter and put them down and told the register girl they were for me. There is always a manager up front by the register, she happened to be the register girl. He asked if there was anything else. I said "yep, I was waiting for another smart remark. Last time I was in here, you commented about my choice of ammo and it being BB's. Just now you called them BB's again and it's not an actual bullet. Just thought you had more to say." The Manager looked back at him. She tried talking to me but I interrupted and said I know she is trying to make right for her customers wrongs, but at this point it's too late. I will give you my email and phone number and we can discuss it later, I was leaving. And I pointed out I was leaving all that ammo I was set to purchase, which I was before his comment. After he said that I just wanted him to lug all that heavy ammo up front and give him a bit of his own medicine. By the time I got home, I had an email from the manager with more coupons for the store than I can use in coming months, along with an apology. So will I be shopping there again, oh yes, ammo just got cheaper for me there, will I be dealing with that guy anymore, Im sure he wont even look my way when I go in. What a D-bag....
    Nice job. I was having a pretty rough night. Thanks for making my day I owe you one.

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    I learned a long time ago one should never make jokes around people you don`t know...there are very serious people that don`t take kindly to your jokes....Retailers don`t need employees with loose mouths either....You handled it well and I`ll bet the salesman has little to say in the future....By the way it has been proved many times that all major calibers, when placed properly will be lethal....get the caliber that you can be the most accurate with with the first and follow up shot...I`ve shot at least 50.000 45`s in my life and now my HK USP 9mm is my gun choice and I trust it 100%

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    Quote Originally Posted by TedDeBearFrmHell View Post
    buy your ammo elsewhere and then send her the receipt to show how much her dolt employee cost her.
    Agreed. I'm a spiteful individual. I'd rather pay more.

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    +++1 Steve M1911A1


    The guy was a jerk and not to bright. IMHO


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    I would have told the jackass that he could have 2 free shots at my butt at 50 feet with a real bb gun if I get 2 free shots at his ass from 50 feet with my "BB gun".
    Think he'll give it a go??

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    I would have said something like this to him. I guess you're having a bad day. Did your blow up doll run away with a pull toy? Guess i will go to a big boy store and get real ammo. BYE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve M1911A1 View Post
    Not exactly...
    This was in a retail store, not among buddies at the range. They were selling him something. Did they want him to come back and buy more stuff?
    If you want to keep your customers, you don't make wisecracks about their stuff, or about them. You do not take even the slightest chance of insulting or annoying one of your customers.
    The remark was inappropriate and feckless, and the clerk was acting like a jerk.
    +1 Nuff said

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    Amazing that someone in a retail operation would make such ridiculous statements. Were it me, I may have been of a mind to take my business elsewhere where it was appreciated. You could have responded with, "Tell you what. Why don't you just stand there and I put two or three rounds into your upper thorax and let's see what happens to your feeble body, eh?"

    Ignorance is its own reward.

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    Response:
    "Is your manager OK with your unsolicited comments on customer buying decisions? I know, let's ask him/her what they think of my ammo. Then, afterwards you two can compare notes."

    Thank goodness you didn't need to grab any feminine hygiene products for the wife/significant other. You might have had to beat his dumb mouthy ass.

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    That's an easy one. I'd just say "I'll go somewhere else to buy my BB's." and walk away.

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    Heh, it's funny how people put down 9mm. Every time I shoot my 9mm at the range I think I sure don't wanna be shot with one.

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    Consider the source and move on. Caliber is not relevant until proficiency in shot placement is achieved.

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