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  • I have a Laser on one of my handguns

    34 22.97%
  • I have a Flashlight on one of my handguns

    13 8.78%
  • I have something other attached to my handguns

    2 1.35%
  • All my stuff is custom

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  • None of my handguns have any attachments

    81 54.73%
  • My "House gun" has a light/laster combo

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    thinking of this.... OPINIONS?



    I would put it on my Sig Sauer Scorpion.... Give it a stinger!!!! maybe i should get the curved blade for more of a scorpion look.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ponzer04 View Post
    maybe i should get the curved blade for more of a scorpion look.
    Very fashionable. That's important, you know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ponzer04 View Post


    I would put it on my Sig Sauer Scorpion.... Give it a stinger!!!! maybe i should get the curved blade for more of a scorpion look.
    been done before (yawn)

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    on a scorpion for a stinger?

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    Well, I'd advise against "Mexican style" carry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MLB View Post
    Well, I'd advise against "Mexican style" carry.
    I will take that into some serious consideration

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    My home defense gun is a Glock with night sights, and a laser light combo, the light will strobe which can and is very disorenting for whoever is on the other end of it, but it was not cheap, but price does not go into the equasion of home defense. the laser is simple, put the red dot on n shoot, more for my wife than me, but i seem to b liking it myself, especially if i have to reach over or around something to shoot, where aiming would not be an option, my cc gun has bullets, think it has sights, but if i have to use it, it will most likely be close quaarters, and at 10 feet or so, your in trouble ..... not that i am
    John Wayne shooting from the hip, i ppoint shoot and with practice have to say, am pretty darn good at it.

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    This has made me think. With a laser light combo wouldn't you lose your night sight if you're using a light unless you close one eye? But wouldn't that reduce your perfierial (sp?) vision in a main area? Then theres the idea that there is only one target. This has made me rethink an idea i had of the laser light combo that has a strobe due to my night vision. May just get a laser with grip activation. Thoughts on my ideas?

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    I do not care for rails .. but it may be just me.

    I think that they are ugly.

    I have laser grips on my night table gun.

    They work very well and have kept Point of aim = Point of impact for several years.

    I have been trained on the use of a flash light and my hand gun .

    That's the way I choose to use a flash light.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Azermiath View Post
    This has made me think. With a laser light combo wouldn't you lose your night sight if you're using a light unless you close one eye? But wouldn't that reduce your perfierial (sp?) vision in a main area? Then theres the idea that there is only one target. This has made me rethink an idea i had of the laser light combo that has a strobe due to my night vision. May just get a laser with grip activation. Thoughts on my ideas?
    I'm sure someone would gladly take your money for the setup and another expert would certainly train you for a few dollars more. Just learn to fight at night. We have a competition weekly and it starts out in the daylight and continues into the evening. There is little light and after you shoot a few times you have no night vision and it's dark enough that most of us cannot see our sights at all or the targets very well. I shot the course twice and ran some faster times when it was dark. Just learn to shoot. But remember if your opponent is well trained you're screwed, but then again highly trained people will rob you when you aren't home.

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    I think the whole a flashlight will give you away is complete BS. A friend of mine who is a cop told me the same thing about a light. And also a laser. Maybe it is BS because my house is relatively small. 2 bedroom one bath sort of compact. I am running a streamlight tlr-3 on my m&p .40c, and nothing yet on my full sized m&p .40. With the TLR3 I can flip the switch on the light and it will light up the whole room/ Guess that is one positive to having a house laid out like ours. The only place you could stay out of sight is the laundry room behind the kitchen. Though it really wont do you much good as there is nothing to hide behind.

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    My HD pistol has a laser. I would be laying in wait in our room, not searching the house. But i will keep the laser pointed somewhere in the room (probably at the wall next to the doorway) as to not give my position and the fact that im armed away. My reasoning is if im waking up at 3 am or something my aiming is gonna probably poor, tought to see the sigths, plus the adrenaline of the situation, I want ANY/EVERY advantage or shortcut i can get for putting hot lead in bg to protect my family. I just think it would be easiet to put red dot on bg and shoot. I don't have/need a light because we leave the kitchen light on every night, which puts us in the dark and anybody coming into the room in the light. I do have a flashlight on the nightstand but not for this scenario.

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    I have a laser on my Bodyguard, but, just because it came with it...

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    Night Vision.

    Quote Originally Posted by matt_the_millerman View Post
    My HD pistol has a laser. I would be laying in wait in our room, not searching the house. But i will keep the laser pointed somewhere in the room (probably at the wall next to the doorway) as to not give my position and the fact that im armed away. My reasoning is if im waking up at 3 am or something my aiming is gonna probably poor, tought to see the sigths, plus the adrenaline of the situation, I want ANY/EVERY advantage or shortcut i can get for putting hot lead in bg to protect my family. I just think it would be easiet to put red dot on bg and shoot. I don't have/need a light because we leave the kitchen light on every night, which puts us in the dark and anybody coming into the room in the light. I do have a flashlight on the nightstand but not for this scenario.
    My wife suffered an arm injury many years back so we have low light on in the house all and every night. The garage has a UV bug-zapper going all night. That means we have plenty of fall protection but no way of preserving any possibility of any night vision - inside the house. I rely on either the iron sights on my XD or the 1 x 28 red dot. Neither give away my position and I can use them day and night in practice conditions.

    A word of warning - constantly check the zeroing on your red dot. I had 2 "cheapies" before my Bushnell that needed constant attention. I still check my Bushnell often but have never had to re-adjust it yet.

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    This might help...........G&A TV

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    Quote Originally Posted by MLB View Post
    I like the idea of a handheld flashlight better, as pointing a firearm at someone/something that I might not want to shoot doesn't sound like a good plan to me.
    Exactly what I was taught; I could see mounting a laser tho I haven't done it. I don't need a flashlight in the house anyway. It's just not that dark.

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    For what it's worth:

    I don't have much experience with or without to compare, but when I took my conceal carry class, they were against lasers. (never brought up flashlights)
    Reason being is, if anyone is confronted by a home intruder, if you think you're going to feel calm and cool like dirty harry, think again. Even the most seasoned police when drawing their gun because of the possibility of having to shoot someone, the adrenaline is running like mad, your heart rate raises tremendously, and you will be nervous beyond what you can imagine. Now try finding that dot. It's going to be dancing around all over the place. They emphasized you should not be looking for a dot, you should be training to have muscle memory to draw, point, and shoot. Ever ride in the car in the passenger seat, and have a close call? You instinctively hit the break, even though it's not there. That's how you should get with drawing a pistol.
    My 2 cents.

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    this is question that everyone is going to have a diffrent answer for I personalley have crisnom trace laser grips on my 1911 I like them because it helps in low to no light situstion because wherever the laser goes the bullet goes also it might keep the bad guy from trying to attack you I have read police reports where the bad guy didn't attack the cop becauce they had a laser device on there gun so if use use a laser or light fine if not that ok to it your prefrence on what you want on your firearms & how you use it

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    I've got night sites but that's it. Hoslter a small carry gun , and I don't need much else. As long as you can see a shadow of a perp. , the night site lets you know everything you need to. Just my humble opinion.

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    I feel I can get back on target quicker with the laser w/ PF-9. Accuracy adequate for defense.

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    I do not own any attached light or lazer but do have next to my weapon a 4 D-cell mag lite in my nightstand.It not only provides light but can be used as an impromptu baton.I have flashlights all over the place and on me.That was due to me being in industrial maintenence,just a habit.

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    I have inside and outside dogs motion lights and leave on a couple of lights. I don't think anyone would try to burgularize me. So the only other option is a home invasion thru the front door. My bedroom is 90 degrees to the front door behind the laundry. Basically I open the door and start capping bad guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haas View Post
    Even the most seasoned police when drawing their gun because of the possibility of having to shoot someone, the adrenaline is running like mad, your heart rate raises tremendously, and you will be nervous beyond what you can imagine. Now try finding that dot. It's going to be dancing around all over the place. They emphasized you should not be looking for a dot, you should be training to have muscle memory to draw, point, and shoot.
    This is all probably true, as far as it goes, but it neglects to mention that you can still do exactly the same thing, with or without the laser. You definitely should train in a way that you are not going to be dependent on some battery operated device. However, if you are looking down the sights, the laser is there, anyway. The laser is an extra tool that you can and probably should ignore, but that, in some circumstances might allow you to make a shot that you otherwise could not. It harms nothing by being there, and if it works when you need it, you have more options than you would have had without it.

    For example, if you need glasses to be able to focus on the front sight, but don't have them, you can still make a precise shot. Or if you need to shoot from an odd position where you cannot line up your sights without exposing yourself, you can still make a precise shot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bisley View Post
    This is all probably true, as far as it goes, but it neglects to mention that you can still do exactly the same thing, with or without the laser. You definitely should train in a way that you are not going to be dependent on some battery operated device. However, if you are looking down the sights, the laser is there, anyway. The laser is an extra tool that you can and probably should ignore, but that, in some circumstances might allow you to make a shot that you otherwise could not. It harms nothing by being there, and if it works when you need it, you have more options than you would have had without it.

    For example, if you need glasses to be able to focus on the front sight, but don't have them, you can still make a precise shot. Or if you need to shoot from an odd position where you cannot line up your sights without exposing yourself, you can still make a precise shot.
    Also, not a bad point. I think what our instructor was trying to point out is if muscle memory is what you should be training and improving on, the laser simply doesn't even come into play. It's something extra to have to fumble with to turn it on, and you may not have that kind of time. The idea is when adrenaline is rushing, and you're not thinking too clearly, use of that weapon should be as un-complicated as possible.
    I dunno, I can kinda see it both ways. It's really individual choice.

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    I agree with the 2 previous post.When I decided to carry again I went to the range to get back into shooting well.I am older now and my eyes require help.At first I thought it was just bad eyes because the rear sight and target were fuzzy but front clear.But by knowing basic anatomy it wasnt a problem.I hit the 10 ring but couldnt see it.It is all about ingrained basic shooting skill developed over many years.

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