Good quality 9mm carry ammo?
I was thinking about going with the vaunted Speer Gold Dot 124gr +P; if NYPD uses it, it's definitely good enough for me. Problem is, it's so damn expensive! After taxes, it's like $1.05 per round. I was maybe thinking of going with Golden Saber (bonded) 124gr +P. Does anyone have any experience with that ammo, or any other suggestions? Let me know, I'd love to hear 'em!
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Finding cheap, high quality Hollow-Point ammo is like searching for the Holy Grail. I am not a fan of the Golden Sabre because of the field tests that show the jacket separating from the bullet, and less desireable defensive effect. They do feed reliably, though.
This is my top list right now:
- Georgia Arms 147gr SPeer-tipped JHP, reloaded, standard pressure at $17-19/50rounds;
- PRVI Partizan 147gr JHP, new, standard pressure at $13-18/50 rounds;
- Federal 147gr Hi-Shok JHP, new standard pressure at $15-18/50 rounds;
- Winchester Ranger 124gr, new, T-Series +P RA9124TP at $27-29/50 rounds;
- Federal Hydra Shok 147 GR JHP, new, P9HS2G1 at $27-29/50 rounds;
- Georgia Arms 147gr Speer-Tipped JHP, New, +P at $23-25/50 rounds;
- USAammo 115gr JHP, new, standard pressure at $13-15/50 rounds.
Check Georgia Arms website for 124gr +P pricing.
I have a hard time justifying more than $25 a box of 50 HP ammo, so tend to stick with Federal Hi-Shok and PRVI and Ga Arms when available. Sometimes I can get good deals on the Hydra-Shock under $25 and the T-Series under $25 and I will buy.
Good Luck and be safe!
Good quality SD ammo is pricey. There really isn't much to be done about it. Avoid plinking with it.
Bullet performance and velocity to me, are secondary. Reliability is the number one issue. If it doesn't feed in your gun, all that velocity and expansion are a moot point. The less stallar bullet design that cycles is better than the super ultra wicked design that jams. The bad guy is not going to rag on you because you shot him with the less expensive ammo.
I have some Winchester Ranger 147s on hand. It's nice stuff, my CZ loves it. I don't carry my 9mm, but all of my handguns have quality SD on hand, should there be some weird one-off need.
Great info guys, thank you very much!
I have found some good prices on Winchester Ranger 124gr +P (bonded) and Remington Golden Saber 124gr +P (bonded). In my research, it looks like "bonding" helps the jacket adhere to core in the higher pressure +P conditions. I don't have any reason to justify it, but I feel like +P is going to be better for HD. Still high-energy, but the bonding and +P could help give a little extra penetration through a leather jacket or or other heavy clothing.
How does the +P feel through your 92FS? Does it make the kick harder to control?
Ok guys, I did my research, and found the terminal ballistics to be very impressive for the Ranger 9mm 124+P Ranger-T and Ranger 9mm 124+P bonded. Would it be safe to load 8 of each into my magazine? Or would that lead to jams?
I was thinking of doing one T-series, then one bonded, etc. Just to get a good mix of thin clothing/denim penetration (T-series) and thicker barrier penetration (from bonded) if needed. Anyone have any thoughts?
Originally Posted by XD40Colorado
But, of course, I can't stop there.
Prices are current Midway USA.
GS 147 grain regular, 990 fps, 349 ft-lbs, box of 25 is $29.49.
GS 124 grain regular, 1125 fps, 320 ft-lbs, box of 25 is $29.49.
GS 124 grain +P, 1180 fps, 384 ft-lbs, box of 25 is $31.49. Available on sale right now for $19.99.
For 124 grain, +P is 4.9% greater muzzle velocity, and 10.0% greater muzzle energy over "regular" load.
Put it all together, and the answer is +P in the 92 FS over "regular" is not noticeable to me.
Ten percent is probably impossible for me to "detect" by feel especially when done on different days.
Also, the heavy 92 FS has always seemed a "soft shooter". It weighs 32 oz. plus 16 9mm rounds to start.
My Sig P290 "barker" weighs 20 oz. plus 9 rounds to start. Really hard to "trick" Sir Isaac Newton by "much".
Oh yeah, in answer to your original question:
"How does the +P feel through your 92FS? Does it make the kick harder to control?" No.
Hah, excellent. Thank you. Lol.
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