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      Looking for subcompact 9mm..........

      I am looking for a subcompact 9mm for my wife and for some concealed carry for me. I am reviewing the following...

      Ruger LC9 $339
      Kel-Tech PF9 $249
      Sig P290 $480
      SCCY CPX 1 or 2 $299/$339
      Diamonback DB9 ???

      Any other suggestions would be appreciated. Doesn't matter if its new or used. I want to spend about $325 but am willing to pay for something that is worth it.

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      Quote Originally Posted by croll326 View Post
      I am looking for a subcompact 9mm for my wife and for some concealed carry for me. I am reviewing the following...

      Ruger LC9 $339
      Kel-Tech PF9 $249
      Sig P290 $480
      SCCY CPX 1 or 2 $299/$339
      Diamonback DB9 ???
      I would avoid the SCCY and DB9...too many bad experiences posted around the web. Other three are mostly reliable and reasonably accurate when you practice shooting. Out of those I would pick the Keltec because of true DAO operation, which gives you second strike, or more importantly, the ability to dry fire the pistol without racking the slide. Strangely, both the LCP and the 290 are hammer fired, but must be re-racked to recock the hammer....I find that odd.

      Also, you might want to consider the Keltec P11m Taurus Millenium Pro, Taurus 709B Slim, Glock 26, Walther PPS, Springfield XD Subcompact, and the Bersa UltraCarry. The Millenium, 709B and Bersa are all DA/SA, which I prefer over striker because I can dry fire them easily. The Keltec is DAO with second strike, so that would be next on the list. For striker fired, the PPS if you can find one at your price point is the best, followed by the Glock, then Springfied. I listed that Taurus's last because of some problems with the Taurus brand, but I think it really depends on the pistol. If you buy Taurus, buy new.

      But if you are looking for pocket carry, you should consider the Kahr, the 290 or the P11.

      I just received a Cz 2075 RAMI, which is a little heavier, but more rounds, and hopefully, more reliability.

      Good luck,
      Thanks,

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      Ruger LC9 shoots well for its size. Also take a look at the Springfield XD and XDm.

      If this is going to be for your wife at home and for you to CC, I would look at getting two pistols. First, a handgun needs to fit the hand of the shooter well and also work well with their natural point of aim. What may work well for her may be too small for you. What fits you well may be too big for her. A medium or full size handgun (4" to 5" or a little over) is usually a better choice for a house gun.

      See if you can rent or go shooting with a friend to see what you and your wife shoot well and like.

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      Early versions of the Kel-tec were plagued with problems; the current production has resolved those problems. Buy new.

      Also consider a Smith and Wesson J-Frame revolver. They are light and reliable; and the steel and the aluminum framed versions are reasonably priced. The .38 stacks up well with the 9mm.

      Also either the Ruger or S & W polymer revolvers. These can be had with a laser sighting system--a nice feature for beginning shooters. These are also competitively priced and exceedingly reliable. The battery of arms for a revolver is the easiest to master and loading and "making safe" are easy too.

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      I carry a PF9 in a pocket holster during hot weather. It has a long DAO trigger pull, but it has gone bang everytime for me when I practice with it. It functions flawlessly with a variety of ammo. I load it with Federal 9BP SV ammo for PP.

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      I would avoid any gun made in Florida. Thats just me however.
      My suggestion would be a Kahr CM9 get a quality weapon that is priced reasonably
      rather then a cheap gun. You do get what you pay for when you spend 250 dollars on a handgun.

      RCG

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      Any gun under $500 is going to be of low reliability IMHO, I have heard decent things about Kahrs and Rugers generally great quality for the price, but if I were you I would try to find a used glock 26, you can get them for around $400 and the gun will fire every time

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      look at the kahr CM9
      my little 5'4" wife said it felt good in her hand and my LGS guy swore by it and he had it on his hip
      i am saving to get one too

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      It will never completely replace my 442 but my LC9 has won me over for carry at times. 100% reliable and a joy to shoot. Kahr lost my business forever due to their horrible CS and a PM9 that was never fixed right. At least that was my case. Many folks like the Kahrs.

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      lc9 is a nice compact gun. the sig p290 is the same dimensions as the p238. which i have and love. i think the sig beats the ruger in size but not by much. i would put these to in the same class for quality and reliability and go with the one that looks best to her

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      Quote Originally Posted by 1jimmy View Post
      lc9 is a nice compact gun. the sig p290 is the same dimensions as the p238. which i have and love. i think the sig beats the ruger in size but not by much. i would put these to in the same class for quality and reliability and go with the one that looks best to her
      I think they are both too heavy. The LC9 is about 17 ounces as I recall, and the Sig is about 20 ounces. The Kel-tec is about 12 ounces--and would make a better hideout gun (but perhaps with a bit more percieved recoil.

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      I am a die hard Sig fan,having said that, wife has a Ruger LCP and loves it.......try the Bersa Thunder .380 CC or 9mm....very high quality at a reasonable price point...

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      Bersa ...very high quality? Interesting, The finish on every Bersa I have ever touched was sub par at best. They must have improved drastically in the past couple years.

      RCG

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      I have a Bersa 380 thunder CC as well, and I absolutely love that gun. The trigger operation is fantastic, and it is accurate and has good safety features. It is a little big for pocket carry IMHO, but is perfect for IWB concealment and purse carry. My girlfriend loves to shoot this gun. It has never failed to fire a round after 250 rounds of a variety of HP ammo. I got the nickel version and it looks great, too.

      Quality: This is not the highest quality gun that you will hand down to your grandkids. The workmanship is a bit rough in some areas. It does get dirtier than other guns because of the fixed barrel design, and you do need to clean it after every 50 rounds or so. And, the breakdown is EASY.

      I did not like the magazine safety because I like to dry-fire the gun, but it was easy to disable by removing the associated parts.

      Most of my other guns have had one problem or another, but the Bersa 380CC has never failed and been great to shoot. It was modeled after the Walther PPK, after all.

      Check out the BLUE version with the GOLD trigger and levers!...beautiful!

      Good luck and be safe

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      still like the kahr CM9 but for price a new keltec PF9 is good
      i had a glock 26 but with the double stack it is not a pocket pistol

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      How much shooting does your wife do? Small guns are not that easy to shoot well. For a dual use pistol, I would conside a compact frame rather than a Sub-compact. Something like a Glock 19 (or similar in size) is small enough to conceal but large enough that inexperienced shooters will find it less of a challenge. I have an XD40SC and I have to practice regularly to stay comfortable with it. My wife hates it.
      Before you buy anything, you should find a way to have her shoot it first to see how it works for her.
      YMMV

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      I have a KelTec PF9 and carry it almost daily. Mine has been flawless in operation and I keep it loaded with 147 gr JHPs. I really like the small easily concealable size but still in a service caliber. However, be prepared to inspect, clean and smooth some of the rough edges on a new one. I'm not a fan of the Ruger copy because they have a safety lever, but Ruger and Sig makes fine guns. I don't know much about SCCY or Diamonback, but I'd prefer my KelTec PF9 over SCCY, even though a local gun dealer tried to convince me otherwise. The CPX 1 has a safety lever which I do not like, but the CPX2 does not.

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      Quote Originally Posted by MitchellB View Post
      I have a KelTec PF9 and carry it almost daily. Mine has been flawless in operation and I keep it loaded with 147 gr JHPs. I really like the small easily concealable size but still in a service caliber. However, be prepared to inspect, clean and smooth some of the rough edges on a new one. I'm not a fan of the Ruger copy because they have a safety lever, but Ruger and Sig makes fine guns. I don't know much about SCCY or Diamonback, but I'd prefer my KelTec PF9 over SCCY, even though a local gun dealer tried to convince me otherwise. The CPX 1 has a safety lever which I do not like, but the CPX2 does not.
      When did you get yours? I heard that the current production is much improved and the owner provided finishing touches are no longer required.

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      KT's are 250 bucks for a reason. They work I am told, however they are a pain to shoot (literally), are unpleasant to look at, require some detail and TLC from the owner and are lose and wobbly in their fit and finish. But hey 250 bucks and you have a weapon to defend yourself. If all you have is 250 and you want to be armed, thank goodness for the good folks at KT.

      RCG

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      I have not seen the Nickle finish 380.....I would be interested to see a pic of yours if you don't mind. I here the nickle finish is subject to flaking, and you need to avoid Hoppes style cleaners on it......true?

      RCG

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