Its really splitting hairs. You can conceal a 1911 with the proper holster and clothing. Concealing those 2 little weapons is easy, real easy! Which ever one you pick. I would worry much more about which is more reliable and which is a better weapon. Either can be concealed almost in any colthing in any season.

RCG

Search my posts for the nightmare that is Taurus warranty repair. A lifetime warranty looks great on paper but when they can't fix your gun after multiple attempts, it is not worth the paper it is printed on. Go with the LCP.

My opinion? Always go with Ruger. Your life my depend upon it. The Ruger LCP works, it fits.

Originally Posted by kyroguy

Search my posts for the nightmare that is Taurus warranty repair. A lifetime warranty looks great on paper but when they can't fix your gun after multiple attempts, it is not worth the paper it is printed on. Go with the LCP.

Your post reminds me that I have a life-time membership to Vic Tanny's Health Clubs. Of course it turned out that the life-time in reference was the life-time of the company and not of the member. I'm still around; Vic Tanny is out of business.

I bought a desk top electric fan the other day. It came with a 2 year warranty. Just send it back to them for repair or replacement. Include $7.95 for return postage. The fan cost me $9.95; I think when the fan dies in 8 months I'll just throw it away.

Sometimes the guarantee is so ineffective that it is not a guarantee at all. I think that some of the stories I've heard about Taurus guarantee work would put Taurus in that same category. Which is pretty amazing when you consider the quality of support their competitors supply. The competition to Taurus seems to be almost uniformly superior in the quality of their support.

If you are really looking for a super concealable weapon then consider the Kel-tec .32, which as I recall weighs in under 7 ounces.

Correction: 6.6 ounces, 3/4" thick. 9 ounces fully loaded. Here is a review: http://www.gunblast.com/JW_Kel-Tec32.htm

But this is not a primary defense gun; it is a back up gun, or a back up to your backup gun. The .32 requires good ammo and serious practice as you need to place the bullet very accurately. A shot to the face (eye, preferably) or throat would be a man-stopping shot in my opinion. A shot to the vitals of a man wearing a heavy leather jacket probably will not get the job done.

Originally Posted by kyroguy

Search my posts for the nightmare that is Taurus warranty repair. A lifetime warranty looks great on paper but when they can't fix your gun after multiple attempts, it is not worth the paper it is printed on. Go with the LCP.

back in the early 90s i was given a taurus pt 100 as a birthday present... it was presented to me while i was at a local range , killing some paper..... it had a burr on the back strap and it was scratching my hand.... i grabbed a file and a some ruby paper and smoothed it off so i could enjoy my present.... the next day i contacted taurus and explained the problem, and what i had done to fix it, i just wanted a price to refinish it..... they asked me to send it to them so they could give me an accurate estimate... they sent me a new gun. so as for taurus' warranty , i got no problem with it at all, i own 3 of them, they all work fine and do what they are supposed to, every time....

I do not want to turn this into a hate fest against Taurus. I will leave this thread with two things.

First, search my posts as previously suggested. They are pertinent to the OP as the TCP is the gun I was having problems with.

Second, watch these three videos in order.







I am by no means saying that the problems with Taurus are systemic, but my posts represent my experiences with them. Especially in the last video, near the end check out the inserts that I included with the gun on it's last two trips back to the factory for repair. I don't know how a problem could be laid out any more clearly.

LCP! I own a pt145 by taurus and its been a reliable great gun. With that being said go with LCP! You wont be dissapointed with the ruger!

I've got 3 pocket .380's, the LCP, Kahr P380, and S&W BG380. They all have strengths, but since you ask about concealability, the LCP is the slickest out of the pocket of them all. There are no protrusions to snag on anything. It truly glides out of my pocket. The other two have "real" sights, and those have a little snag potential.

Originally Posted by HadEmAll

I've got 3 pocket .380's, the LCP, Kahr P380, and S&W BG380. They all have strengths, but since you ask about concealability, the LCP is the slickest out of the pocket of them all. There are no protrusions to snag on anything. It truly glides out of my pocket. The other two have "real" sights, and those have a little snag potential.

The Kel-Tec .380 seems pretty slick too. Lighter than the others, it stands in the shadow of its 12 ounce big brother (9mm) so you don't hear much about it.

My own personal feelings based on owning both brands of guns and owning different guns of each brand.

The Ruger is a much better made gun and their warranty service is fantastic (if you ever need to use it).

JMHO