i bought a 9mm hi point last year. Shoots pretty good, Super heavy gun!! Its ugly, and it looks super cheap built. I didnt buy it expecting it to be like a glock, or springfield. I bought it because the price was 161 bucks, and i figured it would be at least worth giving it a try for the price. i have several other pistols, and no im not going to say its as good as some of the better brand guns because its not, but i did not expect it to be either! For the price i personaly thinks its a pretty good gun. I will never carry it as conceal weapon because its so heavy and plus if it came down to it, i would alot rather have a trusted brand gun on me if my or someone elses life is on the line!! Just my two cents!