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    Quote Originally Posted by Bisley View Post
    The .45 ACP is just a sensible caliber. It puts a powerful impact on the target, without beating up the shooter. That big soft push that is the recoil of the .45 is actually quite pleasant to an experienced shooter.

    The .40 S&W, on the other hand, was just a compromise between the very effective 10mm round that is a great combat-power type round, and the 9mm, which is perceived to have failed so miserably in the Miami shoot-out that prompted a re-assessment of law enforcement armaments.

    In reality, the 9mm, properly loaded for self defense with modern ammo, gives up very little to the .40 S&W, but so many police forces have bought into it, the .40 is probably here to stay.

    But basically, it's just that Americans like to do things their own way.
    I Think most people realise now that the FBI blamed the 9mm rather than there bad tactics . Going to a rifle fight with pistols ect .

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    What is the point that you are trying to get across?

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    Point?

    The point is pointless arguments are the most fun. I do think we can find some common ground if we shift on over to discussing the French.

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    This just turned into a new version of .45 vs 9mm, however instead of any factual information or intelligent discussion coming out of it, its more like tell the stupid Yanks they are using big pointless cartridges.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rupert View Post
    This just turned into a new version of .45 vs 9mm, however instead of any factual information or intelligent discussion coming out of it, its more like tell the stupid Yanks they are using big pointless cartridges.
    HI I never said i did not like .45 . I have a para ordnance 14 45 and its my favourite pistol . But for personal protection i would carry a 9mm . For the reasons i have stated . As for .40 when you have 9mm and .45 i dont see the need for it . I Am just joking about some of the other stuff i hope my american friends have a sense of humour .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rupert View Post
    Because America got it right.

    And we don't like the metric system.
    HI Most here dont like metric . It was imposed on us when we joined the E U .

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    I do have a sense of humor, and I thought it was hilarious prior to invading Iraq in 2003 when the British Royal Marines were so desperate to trade with us for our folding knives because they weren't allowed to have them back home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rupert View Post
    I do have a sense of humor, and I thought it was hilarious prior to invading Iraq in 2003 when the British Royal Marines were so desperate to trade with us for our folding knives because they weren't allowed to have them back home.
    HI. You can have any knife you want in the uk . You can not carry them in a public place because of the knife crime . It would be seen as a offensive weapon, I am sure some states in america are the same .

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    It's an age old argument. I own all three of those calibers and wouldn't want to get hit by any of them.
    Who brought the knives to this gunfight?

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    Quote Originally Posted by manta View Post
    ... As for .40 when you have 9mm and .45 i dont see the need for it ...
    It is not so much that the buying public needs the .40, but the arms manufacturers need it. It requires very little modification of a fire arm to convert a 9mm to .40 caliber, but to convert a 9mm to .45 caliber requires an almost entirely new pistol.

    Even the venerable Beretta 92 is now available in .40, but you won't see it in .45 anytime in the future.

    Also, from a marketing point of view the .40 allows a double stack more easily than a .45 and large capacity magazines sell handguns (whereas practice nearly obviates the need for the high capacity magazines).

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