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    Help picking first gun

    From all my searching it seems the best gun for me is a sig sauer p229 in .40 because of size, capacity, great looks, feels great in hand, but I have not had a chance to shoot it. I shot a glock22 and thought the recoil was too snappy. Then shot an hk usp in 9mm and it felt way softer. Personally I would feel more comfortable with a larger round though..

    Is the p229 as snappy as the g22? This is mainly going to be a range firearm, but I want the capability for carry as I wil be getting my ccw soon.

    Maybe I should just get a commander 1911? decisions............

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    The 229 might actually be more snappy as the Sig has a higher bore axis and less slide mass than the G22.

    As for the Commander 1911, that's a totally different animal than the other two guns you mention. I would probably advise either the 229 in 9mm or the Glock 19 before going to a totally different platform if you are comfortable with the operation of the Sig and the Glock. While I still feel that the 1911 is a find choice for a first time firearm, it's generally more costly and takes a little more dedication to get to the point where it should be carried.

    If you plan on carrying the 1911, you need to practice much more in order to be able to remove the thumb safety on the draw unlike the "point and click" interface of the Sig and the Glock.

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    I am in no rush to carry until I master the firearm, so that is not an issue. My main purpose is to have something that I will enjoy shooting at the range and can carry if I want to eventually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chinesefood View Post
    I am in no rush to carry until I master the firearm, so that is not an issue. My main purpose is to have something that I will enjoy shooting at the range and can carry if I want to eventually.
    You might check around. The range that I use actually has a .40 SIG 229 available as a rental. This is the best way to find out if it's something that you will enjoy shooting without making a big investment.

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    Glocks are great duty and range sidearms, but more difficult for CC. When I retired, I sold my Glocks as I CCW all the time. It's no small task to find something that doubles as a range & CCW arm.
    The self-defense range just doesn't realistically exceed 12 ft. Not much different for LE with a sidearm either.
    I have been issued Sigs & Glocks and love them both. If you really want something bigger than a .40, go ahead with the .45 acp. Some swear by the Springfield XD45 and I can see why.
    Everyone ought to have a range shooter and a separate, but similar CCW sidearm.

    I never saw an option for shooting a model at the range before buying one.

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    Last summer I bought a P229 SCT (high-capacity) .40 14rds. comes with four high cap mags, tru glo(F) and siglite(R) and it's a Cadillac shooting, I don't find it snappy in the slightest.

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    If you want something that you will enjoy shooting, you would probably be better off with a 9mm or .45 ACP.

    The .40 S&W is fine, but it is a high pressure round that tends to have noticeable muzzle flip in a lightweight handgun. The 9mm is much more pleasant, especially with soft shooting practice ammo, but can still be loaded to near .40 S&W capability.

    The .45 has a kind of big, soft recoil that doesn't wear you out. Once you settle down with it, it is actually quite pleasant to shoot. A 1911, in .45 ACP, is an outstanding, fun range pistol, and a great SD weapon.

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    the 40 is real snappy
    just go with a 45acp
    1911
    sig 220
    for polymer
    S&W M&P
    for polymer CCW - glock 30

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    Thanks for the help so far. I am still leaning towards the p229 in .40. I shot a p229 in 9mm last weekend and it was a joy. I would like a bit more firepower than 9mm so it seems the .p229 in .40 is the right choice. The 9mm was very soft shooting. Could the .40 be much harsher? As far as .45 goes I can't seem to find something that looks nice, holds more than 8, and isnt polymer.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by chinesefood View Post
    I would like a bit more firepower than 9mm so it seems the .p229 in .40 is the right choice.
    A 'bit' is right. The .40 S&W is pretty well maxed out, pressure-wise, with about any ammo you choose, so you get the 'snap' that you seem not to like very much.

    On the other hand 9mm ammo can be purchased in anything from the 'powderpuff' WWB 115 grain practice ammo from Walmart, to 147 grain +P ammo for self defense, which performs basically the same as a .40 S&W, in a similar weight bullet.

    You seem to be locked in on the Sig 229 in .40, so go for it. It's a fine handgun and the .40 snap is nothing for an experienced shooter. I just don't know why you bothered to ask for opposing opinions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chinesefood View Post
    From all my searching it seems the best gun for me is a sig sauer p229 in .40 because of size, capacity, great looks, feels great in hand, but I have not had a chance to shoot it. I shot a glock22 and thought the recoil was too snappy. Then shot an hk usp in 9mm and it felt way softer. Personally I would feel more comfortable with a larger round though..

    Is the p229 as snappy as the g22? This is mainly going to be a range firearm, but I want the capability for carry as I wil be getting my ccw soon.

    Maybe I should just get a commander 1911? decisions............
    If you want something for the range, a Commander-size 1911 is definitely a good pick. The Government Model is the most accurate (long sight radius) and most reliable, but is tougher to carry. The Officer and Defender are the least reliable but the easiest to carry. The Commander is a good medium. The question is, can you afford to shoot .45 on the range all the time? The P229 you're getting I am assuming is a .40 because you talked about the Glock 22. I tend to think the .40 is snappy also. I like .45ACP and I have a Springfield Loaded 1911. Try out a 9mm. You will probably find it is less expensive to shoot on the range, less recoil and typically 9mm guns hold more shots. I think 9x19 is a reasonable defensive round. Not as good as .40, .45, or .357, but it does its part and has more power than a .380.

    In my honest opinion, go with the Commander 1911. .45 is not outrageously priced. The 1911 is the best gun for CCW in my opinion, and the 4 1/2" barrel will give you accuracy for the range (more than the smaller 1911s) and better reliability than the smaller models, but will also be easier to carry than a Gov. Model. If I had a choice of any 1911 for CCW, I'd look at the Springfield Champion, the Kimber 1911s or a Colt Commander. If you want something a little less expensive, check out the Citadel 1911. It's made by Armscor, the same people that make RIA 1911s.

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    I love my Sig P229.

    i carry it and enjoy shooting it.

    I had and sold another .40 because I didn't like the snappy .40 cal. - I do not even notice the snappy from this gun.



    I like this gun so much i added the crimson trace laser grips to it.


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