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    ha!ha!ha!,now that you've all took a major crap on my high point,i'll ask again.does i have a weaver rail?oh,i heard the fbi carry this weapon.

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    ha!ha!ha!,now that you've all took a major crap on my high point,i'll ask again.does it have a weaver rail?oh,check this out:All Hi-Point firearms carry a lifetime, no-questions asked warranty.

    Whether you are the original purchaser, or the third-hand owner, your Hi-Point firearm will be repaired free of charge.
    i bet your $600 glock does'nt do that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcus220 View Post
    ha!ha!ha!,now that you've all took a major crap on my high point,i'll ask again.does it have a weaver rail?oh,check this out:All Hi-Point firearms carry a lifetime, no-questions asked warranty.

    Whether you are the original purchaser, or the third-hand owner, your Hi-Point firearm will be repaired free of charge.
    i bet your $600 glock does'nt do that.
    Marcus... earlier, you said you'd bought one... why not just pick the dang thing up and check it for a rail?

    I'd think the only reason it needs a lifetime, no-questions asked warranty is BECAUSE it's a piece of shit. I've personally seen two fail at the range... one spectacularly. Save your money next time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcus220 View Post
    ha!ha!ha!,now that you've all took a major crap on my high point,i'll ask again.does i have a weaver rail?oh,i heard the fbi carry this weapon.
    many many police agencies use hi-points... never know when you will need a drop weapon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TedDeBearFrmHell View Post
    many many police agencies use hi-points... never know when you will need a drop weapon.
    Nahh, they're instructional aides. "Never... ever... buy one of these folks. EVER!"

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    you've never seen other QUALITY handguns fail?its for a home protection weapon anyway.i have a taurus pt 24/7 .40 cal.for conceal carry weapon.which is not the best,but better than the high point.it has a rail but,don't know if its a weaver rail.i will call the company.

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    If it's for a home protection weapon, shouldn't it be the best you can afford? And by afford, I mean instead of dropping $160 on a paperweight, wait a few paychecks and buy a used Glock.

    Yes, I've seen other handguns fail, and I'd bet that 9 out of 10 were operator error (bad reloads or improper ammo selection for their gun).

    There's a reason there are no shooters who do it for a living (aka high end training courses, and yes, I've been to many of them) don't use Hi Points. It may work as a sample of one, but over all they are not well built, they are not proven over the long haul.

    I know someone will say it, so here it goes... "It's just for home defense". If someone thinks they can buy a pistol and load it and set it on the night stand and THEN hope that it will magically protect them... THEY'RE RETARDED. You have to shoot your gun, a lot! to get proficient enough to defend yourself from all but the most inept intruders. As the economy falls further into the shitter, the intruders are going to get more desperate and they will evolve their tactics to faster, harder entries rather than skulk in and out.

    If you shoot a Hi Point hard, I mean proficiency hard... it WILL FAIL.

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    Hey, they go "bang" when you pull the trigger !!

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    So does a 12 gauge pump mossy. So ask yourself which would you trust more as a home defense weapon? If you choose hi-point, you go ahead and rely on it but you can't say you wasn't given a better option.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hud35500 View Post
    Hey, they go "bang" when you pull the trigger !!
    My whole point is that if you don't actually practice with the weapon you choose to test it's reliability, and to confirm that you have the skills beyond "pulling the trigger"... then you might as well buy a baseball bat. There is more involved with actually pointing a gun at another human being than what you see in video games. Trust me, I've pointed a "real gun" with real ammo at another living person. And I'm a civilian. It gets real.. real fast. If your training consists of shooting pop bottles on the weekend, you aren't ready for someone to break into your home. Everything will go wrong, including the amazing "I'll just blast 'em with my pot metal gun" routine.

    The point of owning a gun for self defense is to train with it. Like I said earlier, some people think that "just having it" is going to protect them. Proving a guns reliability over time is just icing on the cake once you can shoot under duress.

    Gotta get up early.. catch the rest of this tomorrow.... SHOOT SAFE!

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    I love reading all the back and forth "good gun / bad gun" threads about High Points. Goes on for ever with no conclusive results. Your either thrilled with a bargain $150 gun that works OK or
    upset because it shouldn't work as well as your $1000 Kimber. With all the information on line and threads like this the company should be out of business right?
    NO, The company is still in business and sells thousands a year. Go figure.

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    High Point......really.....really.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by group17 View Post
    I love reading all the back and forth "good gun / bad gun" threads about High Points. Goes on for ever with no conclusive results. Your either thrilled with a bargain $150 gun that works OK or
    upset because it shouldn't work as well as your $1000 Kimber. With all the information on line and threads like this the company should be out of business right?
    NO, The company is still in business and sells thousands a year. Go figure.
    This is the most wrong statement ever!

    Cheap people will buy cheap stuff and jusrtify their cheapness with cute catch phrases. There is always a bigger market for cheap crap that barely works and in no way compares to top of the line stuff then there is for good stuff at a fair price. Why? because too many people will pay less get less and be satisfied with less. they will then say it is as good as something much more expensive, never having tried seen or actually touching one.

    Owning one says one thing to me.....Hey look I want to own a gun but can't or won't afford one, so I bought this thing.

    But thats my opinion.

    RCG

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    Quote Originally Posted by group17 View Post
    With all the information on line and threads like this the company should be out of business right?
    NO, The company is still in business and sells thousands a year. Go figure.
    equating a high point to any other gun is much the same as comparing a frozen 7-11 burrito to a gourmet meal.... there is no comparison, and yet 7-11 sells thousands a year and some people like them but most would rather eat anything else.

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    Well, IKEA sells cheap furniture that is a good value. It is worth what you spent. It looks good and lasts a reasonable amount of time. But your life does not depend upon it.

    Our company makes wire components. We do a good job. But a parachute manufacturer came to us and asked us to produce some stainless steel d-rings. And we declined. I explained to the customer that our d-rings were an excellent value. Less than 3 bad pieces for every 1,000 pieces produces. That is a rejection rate of 0.3%. Of course if you were jumping from a plane with one of those three parachutes you might not think it was such a good value.

    My thoughts are the same for the High Point. For shooting paper targets and plinking, it is a good value. But for preserving your own or others lives? Maybe not such a good value.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Packard View Post
    Well, IKEA sells cheap furniture that is a good value. It is worth what you spent. It looks good and lasts a reasonable amount of time. ....
    that reminds me, i need a book shelf

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    Quote Originally Posted by recoilguy View Post
    .....Hey look I want to own a gun but can't or won't afford one, so I bought this thing......
    RCG
    25 minutes in one of the big box hardware stores and you can MAKE a better gun......

    back in WWII there was a pistol made in the US for air drop into occupied territory and use by insurgents.... the liberator was a single shot .45 caliber stamped steel pistol that costs $2.40 each.... its maximum effective range from the unrifled barrel was 21 feet..... and this gun is superior to the high point for 2 reasons..... first, it did the job it was designed for (it was a great gun to get a better gun with) and it worked EVERYTIME..... yep everytime unlike the high point.

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