Just about everything makes a g26 look ugly
J/K Monster, thats a nice shooter you have there.
People had been known using a 22 but that was in a case of being right up against it's target. The good old behind the ear thing. A 22 loses way too much of it's power way too soon to be an effective weapon for defense. Yes ia guess it has offensive uses but I'm pretty sure no one reading this thread will have a use for those kind of tactics. So we lean to weapons that can travel over 10 yards and get through clothing etc as well as the intended target.
This thread reminded me is a pretty scary night in a bar in Cincinnati Ohio. Two guys got into a fight and had both pulled out a weapon. At first glance it appeared like one guy missed and the other had a head wound. I didn't actually see the shooting being when I seen the but of one of the weapons I grabbed my friend and went to the floor in hopes of not making the news. But after they had fired a scuffle started and the two were held for police. Come to find out the guy with the head wound was shot with as 25 ACP pistol. The other was hit with as 22. The 25 round literally glanced off the one guys bald head! The round was later recovered (by police) in the ceiling. The other was hit in the shoulder but the round didn't make it through the guys coat and other clothing. He was hit with a 22 round that was recovered from inside his coat. He had a pretty funky bruise but was going to live. These two were about 18-20 feet apart when they fired.
Now I'm not saying that will always be the case with weapons like this. But I had seen this with my own eyes. So it can happen. Neither of these weapons were made to be used in the way they where. The term belly gun is what I think about when I see any of those little pocket 22 & 25ACP weapons. Usually people stuck them in the belly or ribs and fired. or the behind the ear thing we talked about earlier. I blame video games and Hollywood for a lot of what people think those lite things can do. Sure they can be very dangerous and I am not going to step in front of one any time soon. But I'm not going to trust my life to one. Being many times the intended victim is in a defensive position they just are not practical.
I did once kill a raccoon with a Rolm (RG) 25 ACP shot at around 15 feet. But it was a really lucky shot. It just so happened I was doing some work top one I had and had just put it back together. I was going top head out to check it out when the outlaw coon was seen in my trash. in broad daylight! It still run about 30 feet before it fell. And I was really lucky it didn't think to come running at me. A hurt bore coon can be a real handful. Especially when you are the one that hurt them
So I guess I'll stick to my 40's and 45's Being I am not a Hollywood hit man or work for some shady government agency as a loose cannon with a heart of gold.
I do have a couple 22's I like to shoot though. You wont have more fun with 20 bucks and a couple 22's. That 20 will supply ammo for a weekend!
Is a .22 effective as a concealed weapon? Reason I ask is because ill be getting my CHL soon and thats currently what I own, I assume that it will do damage but would it be enough to stop an attacker. Assume im using Hollow points.
IMO, the bigger the better. I personally do not beleive a .22 is effective enough for personal defense, but I'm sure some people would disagree. I would say keep your eye open for a good deal on a 9mm or larger.
The simplest way to answer the question is: "What caliber would you consider too small to stand in front of?"
A well placed shot from a .22 will kill a person just as much as one from a high power rifle. Any port in a storm..........it's better to have something and not need it than need anything and not have it. Most effective, probably not, but if it's all you got, then it's the best thing for the job......until something better replaces it.
Yea, the vast majority of people will agree that a .22 is not an acceptable round for self defense. You need to look at something in the 380/9mm to .45auto range for concealed carry. You can definitly hurt/kill someone with a .22, but it's simply not an effective stopping round. Utilize the search engine on here and you'll find thread after thread answering this same question.
Yeah what the other guys said...the 22 is better than nothing, and can kill with one bullit, but for self defense you need something that will stop the threat before it gets to you...whetether that be a 350lb meth head, armed robber, or just a crazy animal out in the woods, if something is charging you, do you think that little 22 bullit is going to stop them in thier tracks? Only if you are very lucky, and I would definitely not feel safe with it...but its better than nothing, no doubt about that..
The .22 has it's place in the firearms industry, and yes, it can be a lethal round, but I would never carry one, and/or depend on one, as my primary self-defense weapon. But, it's still better than having nothing at all.
About the only reason why firearms manufacturers still insist on manufacturing and selling palm-sized .22 pistols (pocket rockets), is because the public is still buying them.
^I'd have to agree with that but I still love my .22's - all 5 of them!^
A .22 beats nothing and it is lethal but lacks the power to be a fight stopper. I've killed 5 deer with a Ruger 10/22 at up to 75 yards so I know it will work but now that I have the funds I carry nothing less than a .38spl or 9mm with good ammo and a .308 for deer.
It's not often the caliber that persuades the BG to turn and run, but that fact their victim is armed.
Locally, there was a recent home defense where the elderly woman put a single round of 22 rat shot in the guy's belly. He decided robbing her was a really bad idea, turned and ran, and was later arrested at the hospital.