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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraph8588 View Post
    Not to mention, whatever tactical skills I could gain could possibly benefit me in my military career. I'm simply looking for some guidance on how to go about entering this field and working my way up through skills and such. Recommendations on equipment of any type are welcome because if I'm gonna buy anything, I'd rather buy something meant for "the task" and avoid problems that you guys may have already encountered. I'm just trying to think ahead. Let me know if you have advice, I'm new, I welcome anything you throw my way.
    OK so you are in ROTC that means you are in some college or university - concentrate on your studies - get your education and if you are really considering the military in an officer program - guess what - they are looking for leaders, not Rambo. You just don't walk into the military and accept an assignment to spec ops - you have to earn it. Having in your resume' that you are familiar with weapons, have worked as a rent a cop, and are proficient in paint ball - I'm sorry - will get a little snicker.

    Your education is where you should be putting forth your effort - not which tactical weapon you are familiar with - they'll teach you that. If you want to get good at something practice your marksmanship, get a 4.0 in your studies and get in shape physically, running, push-ups, sit-ups. Everything you think you are learning as a civilian is going to be almost useless in the military - the military has THEIR way of doing things. Also if you have any common sense you can bring that with you.

    So one of 2 things - you are either blowing smoke up our as* or you are being misguided. Do you really want to know what is important to joining the military - talk to your local recruiter.

    If you want a current military handgun they are the Sig P226/P229(with a rail), Glock 19/23 and Beretta 92 - and no not the tactical version (only in Hollywood) and no laser sights.

    Good Luck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd View Post
    Was that some kind of dig at me??
    Nooooo! It was the other guy with 4800+ posts.

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    [QUOTE]it makes gun owners look like idiots[QUOTE]
    I've been reading on this forum for over a year actually (member since 08, guess you were admiring your handgun(s) again and forgot to notice it's actually 2009) I liked your reply though Todd. I'll go down any road I want. And really, "sparky", is name calling necessary here on a public forum, especially after your comment, "protecting the integrity of this forum". I'm sure you'll have some reply to this post, it's obvious you can dish it out, but can't take it.

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    Let it go, junior. You can't win, hostility will get you banned.

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    Priorities

    I agree entirely on the priorities regarding being in ROTC and what the military will want. Although I'm more so talking of something to do in my spare time during the break I have from school. My studies are my number one priority as without the grades, I don't get a commission and that's the end of the line. I'm proud to say though I'm holding a 3.82 GPA and I'm taking courses in Arabic/Spanish and Intelligence Analysis. I also concentrate heavily on PT/PFA standards and consider myself in pretty good shape. On my dream sheet I'm going to apply for STO (Special Tactics Officer) although I'm not kidding myself on the realistic difficulty and chances of actually getting in, and then my second choice being Intel, then Sec Forces.

    More than anything else, I'm interested in military style training because it's what I enjoy. I'm not looking to be Rambo or pretend to be some Special Forces commando, I'd simply like to learn how to handle a weapon against a human threat so if the occasion ever arose, I knew I could trust myself. I'm not sure if I had mentioned earlier but to be specific about the ROTC I'm with the Air Force, and to be honest they won't train me on these types of things unless I somehow get a spec-op slot, which the chances range from slim to none.

    I still appreciate all the feedback, any perspective or advice is always nice to have.

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    alright Mr. Butter Bars,
    I worked with a college graduate fresh out of ROTC, his mommy made him join the Army National Guard Reserve instead of jumping into the army. He was obssessed with every tactical and military. His parents gave him a huge sum of money to live off of and he chose to work at a gunshop. No matter how hard he tried to fit in with everyone else, he failed. He always asked questions about killing people and wanting to train with the Rangers. He would "clear" rooms whenever he was by himself, I witnessed it on several occasions. Bottom line, don't be this guy, don't seek out stuff like this, you will only find rich doctors and lawyers or middle aged gun nuts in these tactical classes, looking to foster there need to be manly. Wait until the military pays for you to attend this stuff, don't seek it out. Because alot of that stuff is meant for tactical teams, not Super Ninja Sniper solo assassins.

    If you wanted to be this Security Contractor, you need to get out of school before they fill your head with thoughts about non violence, peace, and love. Because the life of a contractor is just the opposite. I think your view of private security is skewed.

    Most people don't go into the military to get into the Private Security business. They are sought after when they leave, most security contractors are ex military operators anyway. You are in the Air Force? You really need to evaluate your situation.

    You like military style training??Are you serious...Deep down inside, you are a real wanna be. Like I said before, go to the quiet professionals forum and sign up. They will tell you everything you need to know.Coming on this forum is asking for trouble. Obviously no one on this forum can give you the advice you are seeking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by poolshark View Post
    I've been reading on this forum for over a year actually (member since 08, guess you were admiring your handgun(s) again and forgot to notice it's actually 2009)
    So you've been a member for over a year, finally decide to post, and your first order of business is to start flaming a mod? Interesting strategy.


    Quote Originally Posted by poolshark View Post
    I'll go down any road I want.
    Yup. It's called the "Exit Ramp".

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    Quote Originally Posted by SaltyDog View Post
    Nooooo! It was the other guy with 4800+ posts.
    Oh, OK then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tateb24 View Post
    alright Mr. Butter Bars,

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    You like military style training??Are you serious...Deep down inside, you are a real wanna be.
    <yet more snipping>
    I'm not sure what's up with the need to badmouth a young guy looking for opinions here, but it reflects badly on the members of the forum.

    Anyone with any ambition at all is a "wanna be" something. Good luck to you Seraph. Take the criticism with a grain of salt.

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    I believe there is still a bit of smoke in the air. The OP is not yet 21 but as soon as the Assault Weapons Ban was lifted he just ran right out and purchased an AK and AR. Right on, every kid does that don't they.

    Have fun playing,


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    This thread been "interesting" but it is a train wreck. Before it gets any worse (if that is possible) ....


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