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    Looking for small CCW autoloader

    I've been in the market for a reasonably small ccw gun. I'm tallish (about 6') and skinnyish (about 165lbs) so I don't have much fat to help with concealment. I have been carrying a Glock 19 but it's big for me to conceal and I have to go out of my way to wear special shirts to keep from printing. I have been looking lately at the Kahr PM9. Thoughts on that gun? Any other recommendation I should consider in this process? Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cbrgator View Post
    I've been in the market for a reasonably small ccw gun. I'm tallish (about 6') and skinnyish (about 165lbs) so I don't have much fat to help with concealment. I have been carrying a Glock 19 but it's big for me to conceal and I have to go out of my way to wear special shirts to keep from printing. I have been looking lately at the Kahr PM9. Thoughts on that gun? Any other recommendation I should consider in this process? Thanks!
    The PM9 is very easy to conceal. I'm slightly taller and heavier than you, and I carry mine more than any other pistol. It is reasonably accurate and of course very reliable. Also look at the CW9, which is about 1/2" longer/taller, but costs a lot less. Also look at the Walther PPS, and the Kel-Tec PF9, and the new Taurus "Slim" 9mm. If you don't mind a bit more weight, look at the older S&W 3913.

    There's others to be sure, but I'm at work and can't immediately think of them....

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    I had a Kahr PM9...terrible pistol IMHO. Jam-o-matic. Gave up on it. Any company that states a "break-in-period" for full function spells trouble. Should work outta-the-box.

    But I digress..there are many Kahr fans.

    Anyhow, try a XD subcompact in 9mm. Light, small and reliable. Or spend more and get a Roughbaugh (sp) super small 9.

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    Since you already have a Glock 19 have you considered its little brother the Glock 26? I have a G19 as well and do have to dress around it a little, but I don't care. I like it. Good luck in your search.

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    All of the Kahrs are great guns, very reliable once broken in. They are built tight to help with accuracy, so it takes 200-300 rounds to smooth up the rails, etc. It takes a lot of practice to be any good with a small handgun, so you need to burn up those rounds anyway, before trusting your life to it.

    Unfortunately, unless you decide to settle for a mouse-gun, you will always have to dress around your gun.

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    Thanks for the replies. To address the G26 and the XD subcompact, I dislike both. Both are a little to big and blocky for what I am looking for, and I really dislike how the G26 feels in my hand. I find both to be too fat for a subcompact.

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    Kahr PM9 works great for pocket carry or belt carry. I am 6' and 228. Walther PPS is a great gun for carry. Get a high ride holster (I use a Ross pancake with body shield for summer and a Mitch Rosen 5JR Pres for winter). I can conceal the PPS in the summer with just a darker colored tee shirt. I also love the kahr.

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    I will look into some of these suggestions.

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    I own and carry a Glock 26, and your right it's blocky / ugly to some ..... but a real nail driver to shoot.

    If you'd consider a .380 (9mm short) - the Walther PPK / S, the Sig Sauer P230 or P232 are all 3 very nice guns and easy to conceal - they are deadly if you know how to shoot them.

    I hope this helps.


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    Really only looking at 9mm. 380 is too expensive/hard to find.

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    I have a kel-tec PF9 and I can carry no problem in shorts and a tshirt.Not a range gun but great for CCW

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    I carry a Kahr E9 and love it. It is the full metal frame, and it is definitely heavier than the plastic Kahrs......but it still is easy to carry. Shoots very accurate!

    I am down here in Florida, and I am in shorts everyday. I am 6'2" 190. The gun works great for me to carry!

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    Another recommendation for the PPS. And as mentioned above, finding a holster for them hasn't been the easiest. It doesn't seem like many make them specifically for the PPS.

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