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    Are you ready for the BANG!?

    I was at the range the other day and it dawned on me that I always have ear plugs or muffs when shooting. In a real life gun fight or an HD situation, I'm sure I won't have time to reach for my ear protection. I tried shooting without the gear and the echo at the range was really loud, not to mention getting yelled at by the range master. I've even tried this at the outdoor range, but I'd like to see how loud it is in my house. How do you guys prepare for the BANG of a real shoot out?

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    When you're really amped up (adrenaline), you aren't going to notice the "bang" at the time, for the most part. It'll still do damage to your hearing of course, but that'll probably be the last thing on your mind.

    Basically, where a sound may be debilitating or distracting when you're not amped up, it'll probably just sound like a pop when you're turned up to Eleventeen!

    For instance, the incident I was involved in years ago where I had to draw my pistol... I didn't have to fire, thank God, but there are times when I still dream about that incident and I can remember very specific details. What the BG was wearing, smells, details. The funny thing is, most of the details I recall were only the things in front of me. Like I had tunnel vision. I saw/remember very little of what was going on to the sides of me. Seriously, it was if I could smell they guy as well as see the stubble on his chin. In my case, I feel that my body was totally focused on the threat, everything else was pushed aside. Hopefully, if I ever have to draw my weapon again, I'll have a broader scope of recall. (Not that I ever want to have to draw it again, but if I do, I hope I don't get so tunnel focused.

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    zhur-

    You experienced a form of tachypsychia.

    Pretty common during a critical incident. Actually automatic and, in some cases time slows etc. It's a defense mechanism and can be used to your advantge in a single-threat incident.

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    No you don't

    Quote Originally Posted by SIGCrazie View Post
    but I'd like to see how loud it is in my house. How do you guys prepare for the BANG of a real shoot out?
    Trust me on this. A .357 mag outdoors is LOUD. Confined to a 12'X12' bedroom, it is painful.
    I'm not telling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SIGCrazie View Post
    How do you guys prepare for the BANG of a real shoot out?

    I don't.

    I train to drop the threat/s a soon as humanly possible. If I'm pointing a firearm at someone and commited to firing my ears are along for the ride.

    After that threat/s has been 'eliminated' I scan with my eyes for the next or train my firearm on the next threat that was pre-assessed.

    It is wise, however, to cover your 6. During a firefight you may not always be able to hear someone sneaking up behind you. Checking/keeping your 6 safe is part of the total engagement package.

    Threats come from all angles. Use all your senses and training.

    And please don't do any of this:

    I tried shooting without the gear and the echo at the range was really loud, not to mention getting yelled at by the range master. I've even tried this at the outdoor range, but I'd like to see how loud it is in my house.

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    I expect my gun to go bang if I pull the trigger so in that sense I am ready for it but like Zhur mentioned, that'll probably be the last thing on my mind.

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    I noticed this deer hunting. You don't notice it in the heat of the moment.

    And shooting in the house, it's ileagal where I live. I can not describe how loud it is. It's so loud it's scary.

    Just to test it, light a package of firecrackers and throw them in your kitchen sink.

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    I more ready to hear the *whump* the bullet makes hitting someting solid and dense.

    That's a neat sound.

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    Don't get me wrong...I would NEVER fire my gun "to see how it sounds in my house". I'm a responsible gun ownwer. I meant to say that I wonder how loud it would be if fired in my home.

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    Well, it's loud enough to make me say the F word with the uuuuu part dragged out.

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    It'll be "standing behind a 747 powering up for take off" loud.

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    Please make sure to have about $6,000.00 saved up, ahead of time.
    That's how much a decent set of hearing aids costs.
    How do I know? Look into my ear canals, and see.

    All it took was one shot fired from a .45, outdoors, without any ear protection at all.

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    This thread makes me think of the movies where there are shootouts with people firing from their cars and carrying on conversations between shots.

    BTW, I have no plan to prepare for the loud boom in my house. It is what it is. If I blow out an ear drum or go deaf in the course of saving my wife or kids, it's a good trade in my book.

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    I am one of the dummies that didn't think about or use ear protection for many years. Fortunately I didn't have to spent the $6,000 Steve did.

    I remember a 7MM magnum purchased for an Alaska trip in the 60's. If I fired 10 rounds of 7MM my head would require a double dose of aspirin and a night to recover. It also kicked like hell.

    I shot Deer and Elk with it and didn't feel or hear it go off. All I remembered 5 minutes later was the animal hit the ground immediately after pulling the trigger.

    My expectation is that the adrenalin and your systems automatic response to danger will cloud everything out if encountering a dangerous event.

    I know it will not stop me from pulling the trigger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve M1911A1 View Post
    How do I know? Look into my ear canals, and see.


    I couldn't resist.

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    Hey, Salty...
    The picture is almost correct, except that when you shine a light through my ears, you see a naked lady projected on the wall.

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    Evan Marshal, of stoppingpower.net, a retired Detroit cop, says in a SHTF situation you never notice the sound or the flash. Not ever being in a situation like that, I'll take his word for it.

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    I love dove hunting (can't you tell). If the field is hot, I go through a box and a half of shot shells (25-36), depending on how I'm shooting that day, maybe more. I don't feel the kick nor bothered by the sound that a 12ga makes. Same thing with deer hunting, while on the practice range, I feel and hear my 30.06 go KABOOM, but when that big buck shows up, not a single thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve M1911A1 View Post
    Hey, Salty...
    The picture is almost correct, except that when you shine a light through my ears, you see a naked lady projected on the wall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dovehunter View Post
    I love dove hunting (can't you tell). If the field is hot, I go through a box and a half of shot shells (25-36), depending on how I'm shooting that day, maybe more. I don't feel the kick nor bothered by the sound that a 12ga makes. Same thing with deer hunting, while on the practice range, I feel and hear my 30.06 go KABOOM, but when that big buck shows up, not a single thing.

    what he said w/ one exception. while turkey hunting w/ 3 1/2" shells, i'll still think about what that recoil is going to feel like if i pull the trigger...even if i'm looking at a tom in full strut 20 yards in front of me, it's still on my mind. i'll still pull the trigger though...then i'll say "aw f&@%, that didn't feel good". but it's worth it.

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