You want dependability at a decent price,Springfield Armory XD's/XDM's and Glock. Unless of course you want a revolver then go with S&W or Ruger.

Originally Posted by F1ELD

the only thing im thinking about really is the barrel length. there were a couple xdms at the store and the longest one i think had a 4.5 in barrel while the glock 34 has a 5.3in barrel. what is this actually going to translate to with taking the gun to the range? in terms of muzzle velocity, where you are aiming and what distance it can mechanically fire accurately at targets?

While the differences in MV can be measured, you will not make any use of an extra three-quarter's of an inch in barrel length. IOW, don't make your decision based on that.....

oh yeah. here it is right here

oh man i took it to the range today and shot about 250 rounds. what a sweet gun, definitely outshoots my pt-111. i was havin a blast. the thing can shoot real fast too because of the short trigger reset. lots of fun. i realized also that the grip plate thats on it the way it comes isnt the biggest one. i think ill get a little punch and put the bigger grip plate on. great gun

figrued id make a disassembly vid since i got the gun in case someone loses thier manual lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PoYsDy-AM0A

http://stevespages.com/page7b.htm

A good resource for replacing lost or otherwise gone manuals. The guy that made the site has a LOT of really great pages. He's scanned and uploaded all kinds of manuals for all types of weapons.

Worth checking out. You'll need the adobe reader to view.