Time for a replacement.
Well I have had my old 1980's Taurus PT99 that my father handed down to me from his uncle for a few years now, and I want to add another autoloader to my collection. This gun has been great. I have had very little problems with it and its pretty damned accurate for how old it is and how many rounds have been put through it. But I'm bored with it, and I want to get something new. Can I get some input?
-First off let me say I am open to any caliber, but I would prefer 9mm or .40 over .45 or .357.
-1911's are great, but there's so many of them!
-I will probably be putting on an LAM or integral laser as well as POSSIBLY a silencer, depending on the gun.
-I have a large hand, so it needs to be full size (I can palm a basketball forever).
-I won't be using this for concealed carry probably, just home protection, target shooting, and plinking (a lot).
-Needs to be comfortable and reliable.
---Here are some of my top choices---
-HK USP in either 9mm or .40
-Beretta (any model) in 9mm
-Glock 17 in 9mm
-Sig Sauer P226 in 9mm
-feel free to suggest anything
Also, what are the best LAM's and constant lasers that don't keep beating? Silencers?
Any of the ones you listed will work. I lean to Sigs when I'm looking at more modern auto loaders but all those you listed are well made weapons.
"1911's are great, but there's so many of them!".....
So this makes you NOT want one???!!!:smt120
If you're totally against that idea, and don't want any polymer..... Sig p226. I'd hate to be staring down the wrong end of one of these.
Before you do anything, look at a Springfield XDm.
No, I'm not kicking 1911's out of the game at all. Sorry I made it sound that way. i just want something different than a normal 1911, and I know there are tons of manufacturers and versions, but I don't know which is best to buy.
Lately I have been leaning toward the Sig because of its accuracy and insane reliabilty. The two you posted are good looking, abd I've gone to Sig's website and looked at the other model variations, but I can't find a place that sells these different variations.
I also really like the HK USP, but I would definately put either a silencer and LAM or integral laser and LAM on it. But how good is this pistol in reliability and accuracy? I haven't heard too much about it.
I just did look at the xd's and xdm's, and those things look pretty damned nice, esp. the one with the black frame and silver metal slide. So how are these doing?
Another vote for the Sig. Although, I have the Signess and my vote is biased.
I have a weird feeling you pulled this one out of your wallet! :mrgreen:
Originally Posted by Todd
xIC3xMANx, your list is all good IMO, it's really just a question of whether or not you want all steel or polyme rand how much you're willing to spend. XDMs are real nice too and should definitely be a candidate, especially considering this would be a range/home defense weapon, which means capacity is higher on the priority list. The XDM is king in capacity, hands down.
I'm partial to metal frames, especially in a range handgun, so I'd probably go with a Sig P226, although I am also a big fan of high-cap 45s so I would heavily consider the FNP 45... 15 + 1 in 45 ACP = mmm mmm good! I'm not sure if you're too keen on this recommendation but if you have large hands, this is probably the biggest handgun of the popular calibers in the market, and if the XDM deserves recognition as a range gun, the FNP 45 definitely does, too.
The Beretta 92 seems to meet your specs and it's about the easiest to use as a supressor host. I put Crimson Trace grips on mine. Another advantage to suppressor use with the Beretta is you won't need to use an L.I.D.
Without a laser, you need to be careful in supressor selection to ensure you can use the sights; most 9mm cans will block them. There are a few suppressors that have sights built into them for that reason. Good luck with your quest.
So I think it is safe to say that we have narrowed it down to 3 guns, the Springfield XDM; the Sig P226 in 9mm; and the HK USP. What caliber is best for the other two pistols? And price for the gun should be around 1k. I have always payed more and usually gotton more, so lets hope thats true here. And I would get a Beretta 92, but I own Taurus's licensed version of that already and I want to try a closed slide pistol. And after going to the range, Glocks are out of the game. We didn't match well. I don't like their blocky feel, esp. when firing when the slide goes back and forth. And I sucked at shooting it.
I own a Baby Eagle(IMI) 9mm and 40, CZ 75B, Beretta 92FS, S&W M&P 9mm, Desert Eagle 44 mag., Sig 220b srt, Ruger Security Six .357(dads old revolver) and I would have to say that the Baby Eagles are my favorite and best value as they are the cheapest. Interestingly enough, the old Ruger revolver is the most accurate. The Sig is definitely the most dependable and super nice to fire but cost prohibitive compared to the Baby Eagles. For a one time only purchase with no cost concerns, I would choose a Sig but if looking for a value I would choose the Baby Eagle in either caliber.
Out of the three you lave listed in your last post the 226 is the better weapon. The other two are fine choices but if it's the best of those three then the Sig takes the gold, to me anyway., ut poly frame against a metal frame for me makes for a more stable weapon. I find most poly frames don't balance near as well so things like muzzle flip while manageable still is more than it will be for a aluminum or steel frame. The HK would run a close second being it has a hamme3r. But it always looked to me that the HK's hammer was a little harder to get hold of.
Again all of those weapons have shown that they are reliable and will hold up well under fire. But the Sigs hammer is a little easier to get hold of than the HK and the metal frame always seems to give me better balance therefore giving me less to have to manage for a follow upshot. That and the way the Sig Sauer fits my hand over the XD and HK's flat side panels on their grips.
But that's just me.