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    questioning permit

    do any of you know anyone that has a handgun permit that really shouldnt have one?

    i know someone in another part of the state that got his handgun permit, and im tempted to call the tbi and tell them this person shouldnt have one much less own a firearm

    ur thoughts?

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    Yeah, I know a couple that I have no idea how they got one outside of being just lucky enough to not have been arrested or owe child support. I know a couple guys that are great people but can't make the cut due to things like child support while some others are just a ticking time bomb and have a permit to carry.

    I'm not really sure how to make it where it would be much better outside of possibly reporting those that really shouldn't have one but how do you do that? Say he/she is some Gecko-45 type guy? The sad reality is unless they have done something there is nothing that can be done. You have to wait until it's too late.

    I sometimes wonder if they give some of these idiots permits for fodder to fuel the idea that no one should have one. I have no idea how to make it right and I hate the idea that some people that have no business with a weapon at all let alone a CCW. Not without making it that much harder for the ones that do deserve one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DevilsJohnson View Post
    I sometimes wonder if they give some of these idiots permits for fodder to fuel the idea that no one should have one. I have no idea how to make it right and I hate the idea that some people that have no business with a weapon at all let alone a CCW. Not without making it that much harder for the ones that do deserve one.
    Good point, I'm always worried that some idiot with a permit is going to ruin it for the rest of us that are responsible. Like I always say, "A license to carry is not a license to kill." The CCW permit is a huge responsibility that many people just can't live up to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KS Trekker View Post
    Good point, I'm always worried that some idiot with a permit is going to ruin it for the rest of us that are responsible. Like I always say, "A license to carry is not a license to kill." The CCW permit is a huge responsibility that many people just can't live up to.
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    Not without making it that much harder for the ones that do deserve one.
    Devil summed it up right there. You can argue all day about who just doesn't have the mental attitude to be carrying or not, but if you try to move beyond solid objective facts, such as "this guy has a clean criminal record and has completed the required classes", things would get ugly fast. You hear people grouse about this all the time with driver's licenses too...everyone seems to think everyone else (who's not their friend, anyway) is an idiot who shouldn't be "allowed" on the road.

    It stinks of elitism to me. Yeah, there's the few who genuinely are dangerous, but that doesn't mean our country restricts it to the few who have the pull to say "Oh, I'm ok...".

    As far as the crazies I know who shouldn't have a permit, most don't bother anyway, or if they couldn't get one wouldn't bother to care.

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    Quote Originally Posted by knoxrocks222 View Post
    i know someone in another part of the state that got his handgun permit, and im tempted to call the tbi and tell them this person shouldnt have one much less own a firearm
    What has this person done that makes you think he should not own a firearm? Does he brandish it? Threaten people with it? Clean it without making sure the gun is empty? Has he done something illegal with the gun or just stupid? If he did something illegal, and you witnessed it, you should have called LE then. After the fact isn't much use. If he's just doing something you don't like, not much you can do about it. Unless the guy is doing something illegal, and you report it immediately, I highly doubt he's going to get a knock on the door by LE saying that they had a report he's an irresponsible gun owner and they're taking his permit and weapons away.

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    Child support can prevent obtaining a CCW permit? I realize this is probably based on State... still.... is this true at all?

    [Edit]: Hrm, now that I think about it, I'm beginning to wonder if being DELINQUENT in paying child support is a source of prevention. Still, I would like a little clarification if it's no problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by literaltrance View Post
    Child support can prevent obtaining a CCW permit? I realize this is probably based on State... still.... is this true at all?

    [Edit]: Hrm, now that I think about it, I'm beginning to wonder if being DELINQUENT in paying child support is a source of prevention. Still, I would like a little clarification if it's no problem.
    Here's what KY says on it:

    237.110 4f) Does not owe a child support arrearage which equals or exceeds the cumulative amount which would be owed after one (1) year of nonpayment, if the Department of Kentucky State Police has been notified of the arrearage by the Cabinet for Health and Family Services;
    So it's if you're late on paying child support in this state at least.

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    EDIT: Sorry, missed the link to legislature: http://www.lrc.ky.gov/KRS/237-00/110.PDF

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    # Not owe a child support arrearage which equals or exceeds the cumulative amount which would be owed after one (1) year of nonpayment; and
    # Have complied with any subpoena or warrant relating to child support or paternity proceedings;

    Link to Ky CCW Regs


    I don't know about other states. But yes the child support comes into play here. I guess they figure you are not paying support you are not a good candidate to carry. Unless it's open carry of course. They'll let them do that all day long.

    I should have read all the posts..Sorry KG

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    im not going to disclose what he does or did on the internet, all im going to say is i dont support it at all

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    Quote Originally Posted by knoxrocks222 View Post
    im not going to disclose what he does or did on the internet, all im going to say is i dont support it at all
    Right, because we all will figure out who this anonymous guy somewhere in TN is based on another anonymous guy's (you) description of his behavior; and then we're going to harass him one we figure out his identity. And so what if the almost impossible happens that we do figure it out and this guy finds out that we know? Maybe it will make him get his head out of his ass and be a little more responsible with his firearms. Who knows, if he's doing something really dangerous and he gets called on it, it could save an innocent person's life (if he takes himself out, no harm, just Darwinism).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd View Post
    (if he takes himself out, no harm, just Darwinism).
    hahaha, awful, but hillarious none the less

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    It's all good, DevilsJohnson, I hadn't seen that source before. I've got it bookmarked now. Thanks!

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    I know Colorado has a child support clause also. I'm pretty sure it is a 50 state thing.

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    I didn't know about all 50 but I knew there was a few anyway. I'm not sure what one has to do with another but that's the law so that's that. I origiopnally thought it might be a way to keep it from a large group of X-husbands because of some odd statistic made up someone where with divorced men and possible estranged spouse violence. I could never find that stat though and figured it was something more obscure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by knoxrocks222 View Post
    do any of you know anyone that has a handgun permit that really shouldnt have one?

    i know someone in another part of the state that got his handgun permit, and im tempted to call the tbi and tell them this person shouldnt have one much less own a firearm

    ur thoughts?
    Interesting that you should bring this up and not want to give any details.
    What's up with that?

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