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    firefighterwall is offline Junior Member
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    Single / Two Pistol Safe

    Can anyone recommend to me a decent safe to store one, maybe two pistols, and ammunition?

    Must have the following:
    -Relatively fireproof
    -Relatively tamper proof
    -Won't cost me tons of cash
    -Quick open ability


    This is mainly to store the gun out of the way and keep honest people honest as well as keep curious fingers OFF. I don't have children, and none ever come to the house, but I have friends who might be curious and a fiancee who doesn't need to touch it until she's learned how to fire it.

    Thanks!

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    One, I am guilty of it myself but you shouldn't store your ammo and guns in the same safe. that being said try here
    http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_gw...afes&x=20&y=23

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    To be honest my ammo will probably be stored in a separate safe, but I will have a magazine or two with the pistol already ready to roll (if not already a round chambered).

    The idea is to have a safe I can rapidly open if my alarm system goes off (I have a fairly thorough one), the dog barks, or I hear a "bump in the night" yet one that will keep the pistol out of visible range. I wouldn't mind storing something else in there too, maybe a little bit of cash, credit cards, etc.

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    What're you looking to spend?

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    Well to be honest I was hoping to be a bit more frugal about it, but I'm not averse to spending a coupla extra bucks to get something quality rather than a POS that will lock up on me, fail, or be super easy to open.

    I hadn't thought of a hard price, it all depends on if I see something that seems quality enough and seems to be a reasonable expense.

    If you can throw some examples out that'd be good. I see those cheap honeywell ones but I see a lot of people griping about them too, and last thing I want is a safe that will not open when I need it to.

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    thanks for that link. I believe my local gunstore has some of those on display that I tried out...seemed to open without a hitch almost every time, though to be honest I'm not sure if it was these exact brands or one that looked mighty similar.

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    These might work for you.

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    thanks dblshred, I was thinking of one of those.

    Does anyone actually have one of these? I recall reading a review where an individual had one and seemed to have an issue with the buttons functioning properly all the time.

    I'm curious as to whether this was just a fluke of the particular safe he had, or something to actually worry about.

    Push comes to shove there is a key backup, but I'd rather not take the extra time to get it out when I need that pistol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by firefighterwall View Post
    Can anyone recommend to me a decent safe to store one, maybe two pistols, and ammunition?

    Must have the following:
    -Relatively fireproof
    -Relatively tamper proof
    -Won't cost me tons of cash
    -Quick open ability


    This is mainly to store the gun out of the way and keep honest people honest as well as keep curious fingers OFF. I don't have children, and none ever come to the house, but I have friends who might be curious and a fiancee who doesn't need to touch it until she's learned how to fire it.

    Thanks!

    I was looking for the same thing and I don't think it exists. As pistol safes go I was told by several safe companies that they are not very fireproof if at all. My thoughts were that if the ammo or cash was not protected by at least a 1hr rating then the cash would quickly burn and who knows what would happen to the ammo. In the end I went with a Granite Security gun safe (holds rifles too) that has a good rating so I feel everything is secure. It's also good if you add a few more guns so you have room to expand. I know it's not what you asked but unless you are only going to store one pistol for quick access (no cash, ammo etc..) I don't think it will work..or at least it would not work for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by firefighterwall View Post
    I have... a fiancee who doesn't need to touch it until she's learned how to fire it.
    I know its none of my business but...

    Here is this woman who is supposedly your best friend, your soulmate, the woman who you trust with your very life and maybe even the contributor of half of the DNA of your your heirs but yet you believe the only way to keep her from handling your gun is to lock it away?

    Don't get me wrong, having a safe is a wise investment, but if I told my wife that I have a safe and there is stuff in there that I don't want her to get your hands on because I don't trust her, my name would be changed from Scott to Plaintiff!

    Scott

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    Quote Originally Posted by scottaschultz View Post
    I know its none of my business but...

    Here is this woman who is supposedly your best friend, your soulmate, the woman who you trust with your very life and maybe even the contributor of half of the DNA of your your heirs but yet you believe the only way to keep her from handling your gun is to lock it away?

    Don't get me wrong, having a safe is a wise investment, but if I told my wife that I have a safe and there is stuff in there that I don't want her to get your hands on because I don't trust her, my name would be changed from Scott to Plaintiff!

    Scott


    Would you trust someone with a pistol who had never fired one before, and who is at this point still very afraid of them?

    She needs to walk before she can run. That's just common sense.


    Our relationship is fine though, thanks.

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    Every relationship is different and you need to do what is in your "comfort zone".

    While my wife does got shooting with me on occasion, she does not share the same level of enthusiasm for firearms as I do. What she does understand is that these are lethal weapons. She knows that they can have life-altering or even life-ending effects if misused. I absolutely trust her in every respect and do not find it necessary to keep any of my firearms locked up for the purpose of keeping her away from them.

    I have several shotguns and they are all locked up. She has never fired my 10 or 12 ga shotguns because she is afraid of them... as well she should be, especially the 10 ga monsters. They are locked up because our grandchildren come over. I keep them under lock and key so they will keep their grubby little mitts off of Pawpaw's guns! My wife knows where the key is and can open the cabinet any time she wants.

    Anyway, I am glad to know your relationship is doing well and I wish you my heartfelt congratulations and wishes for many happy years together.

    Scott

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    Mine is scared of pistols. She is not quite anti-gun, but she is as close to it as you can get. She does not believe we need one, and she does not feel it necessary to use one.

    I am slowly trying to bring her around. However, in the meantime, I am the man of the house and it falls upon me to protect my family at any cost, which I will easily do. Her discomfort and dislike of firearms is secondary to my desire to defend her and our family at any cost.

    She will learn how to use it, if it is to be in the house -- I have made that clear to her. I do not put my foot down or say "this isn't an option" almost ever, but with this, I most certainly have.

    However in the meantime, she does not need to pick up and move (to clean, for instance, or sort a drawer out, or whatever) a loaded firearm that she is not familiar with, hit something and knock it over, or any other issue that could arise. That is how accidents happen...while she respects firearms and the power they have, I am a fan of not pushing my luck.

    Trust has nothing to do with it, respect has nothing to do with it. Common sense and safety precautions have EVERYTHING to do with it, and saying that you want to keep the hands of an untrained individual off a deadly weapon is intelligent, and I see nothing "not trusting" or "not respectful" in that thought process.

    I'd no sooner hand an untrained adult a pistol than I would hand a child one. Either could be equally dangerous to themselves and others.


    In addition, on a more friendly note, I'd advise against reading too deeply into someone's personal life based on a single arbitrary sentence in a random post about a random topic on an internet forum.

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    You are absolutely correct. There is no right or wrong answer to this. You came here asking for recommendations for a safe and I diverted the discussion away from the topic at hand and for that I apologize.

    As safe is never a bad idea and you need to do what you need to do for your own peace of mind.

    Friends?

    Scott

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    Now we're seeing eye to eye...it's all about peace of mind. Same reason I have my alarm system, same reason I have my heavy duty locks, same reason I have my large dog, and a good part of the reason I will have firearms!

    And of course we're friends! We were never anything but haha.

    So on that note, what safe did you end up with in particular, how much did it run, and are you happy with it?

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    For the handguns, we have a garden variety Sentry brand safe with a combination lock that we bought from one of the office supply stores. We use it mostly for important papers and such and are not too concerned with needing to get to them on a moments notice. I am probably one of 18 people in the known universe who does not buy guns for personal protection or concealed carrying purposes. As far as the handguns are concerned, they are strictly for sport and stress relief.

    Where you have 1 dog, we have 4! They are all full-bred Siberian Huskies that have all been rescued from shelters or puppy mills. We didn't adopt them for security, but that is certainly a side benefit even though there are other breeds that make much better guard dogs. We just happen to like that breed and have rescuing them for over 15 years.

    For the rifles and shotguns, they are in a glass-front display case that is locked, but honestly, you could probably pry the door open with a screwdriver. I guess we go on the assumption that locks are to keep the honest people out! The same is true for the bottom section where the shells are stored. A large part of our peace of mind comes from the fact we moved from the city to a somewhat rural area. People know each other out here and pretty much trust each other and until or unless that changes, we probably won't be changing our firearm storage strategy.

    Scott

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    I like huskies but other than making a lot of noise have never known them to be good guard dogs...have had two that I raised from puppies.

    They are sure stubborn and knuckleheaded dogs though, but beautiful and sweet and not terribly hard to care for (until their coat blows out during summer).

    I think I will end up going with one of those gunvault safes or something. We'll see.

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    I picked up the DAC Sportsafe because I liked that you can program it to open with as few as three key presses and up to six. Also comes with key backup.

    http://www.mydiscountstation.com/ind...&productId=181

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    Quote Originally Posted by scottaschultz View Post
    I am probably one of 18 people in the known universe who does not buy guns for personal protection or concealed carrying purposes.
    There's that many?!?!

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