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    Quote Originally Posted by scottaschultz View Post
    Where you have 1 dog, we have 4! We didn't adopt them for security, but that is certainly a side benefit ..... Scott
    Security as a side benefit? Since you're "one of about 18 people in the known universe that doesn't have handguns for concealed carry or protection", carrying 4 dogs into town with you to protect you and your family from the bad guys has got to be a real chore.

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    You should see the reaction when we take them all to PetSmart!

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    Quote Originally Posted by firefighterwall View Post
    thanks dblshred, I was thinking of one of those.

    Does anyone actually have one of these? I recall reading a review where an individual had one and seemed to have an issue with the buttons functioning properly all the time.

    I'm curious as to whether this was just a fluke of the particular safe he had, or something to actually worry about.

    Push comes to shove there is a key backup, but I'd rather not take the extra time to get it out when I need that pistol.
    I have the single-weapon gunvault and plan on getting a double-size in the near future. I am very satisfied with it and can make no serious complaints. Still, as a subjective consumer (and since you asked), I'll be more critical....

    The safe is very rugged, although the single-sized gunvault volume is deceiving and gets drastically smaller as you go from front to back. There is no way I would believe the gunvault to be fireproof or fire-resistant; it is lined with a fairly rugged grey foam, although I imagine it would melt at the first signs of high temperatures. Speaking of fires and durability, I bought this product at the recommendation of my CCW instructor who also happens to be LE. As a test, he asked some of his firefighter buddies to rip one apart by whatever means necessary. It took them over 90 minutes with SEVERAL tools available to them. My understanding is the jaws of life is what eventually broke the safe, but most of the time was spent creating a gap big enough so the jaws could be inserted. Pretty rugged!

    The selling point to this product really is the owner's ability to quickly access its contents while prohibiting access from anyone else. The is entirely dependent upon the user entering the correct code. A single failure to enter the correct code will result in the panel freezing and resetting for a about two seconds. Multiple failures to enter the correct code can result in the gunvault panel freezing for several seconds or freezing entirely (honestly I don't remember what the manual said, and I don't have problems forgetting or "typo"ing my passcode...I doubt you'll have problems either).

    The best I can fit into the safe is a compact-sized semi-auto with 3-4 mags. To add anymore objects would hinder access to the weapon when the SHTF. Besides, in a pinch, this is more than I can carry with two hands.

    A fully loaded compact + three mags in a secure, quickly-accessed location is exactly what I wanted, and the gunvault delivers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redwolf View Post
    One, I am guilty of it myself but you shouldn't store your ammo and guns in the same safe.

    Yup- me too. If the BG's get in my safe, they're going to get into anything else I have that's that secure or less. Including the lock box inside the safe designed for 'secure ammo storage'.

    Could be stored in worse places, esp if there's a fire. That way Johnny Firedood don't catch a stray if it's all in my safe.

    I prefer a cable through my pistols and everything stored in the safe. Too many safes gets to be a pain. I aint got room for it all and if yer hardcore enough to get into mine? Then I truly gots other things to worry about.

    Reminds me....all that BMG I got under my bed that's holding it up prolly needs to be moved to a 'safer' spot.

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    I also have a GunVault. I have the Mini Deluxe which has an external power supply (you'll still need AA batteries), an interior light and an alarm feature. I have it bolted down to a cheap nightstand next to the bed. I also bought the steel cable which I have wrapped around the headboard.

    I agree, with the above post, that said this is not fireproof. The combination you choose depends on how fast you can get it open. If you go too fast, it will lock it and you'll have to wait 1-2 seconds before punching it in again. Keep this in mind when you come up with the combination. First I had a combination consisting of single and multiple numbers, but that caused me too many incorrect attempts. I changed it to just single button pushes. The deluxe models have a sensor that you would alert you to someone (a child) getting too close to it and when 24 incorrect attempts are made.

    I can put a Beretta 92FS and HK USPc in the safe at the same time. I have to push the HK all the way to the back and then the Beretta. They form a rectangle kinda. HTH

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    Quote Originally Posted by mels95yj View Post
    I can put a Beretta 92FS and HK USPc in the safe at the same time. I have to push the HK all the way to the back and then the Beretta. They form a rectangle kinda. HTH

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    Yea, I've been able to do this, but there's absolutely no room for anything else. Plus, the firearm in back is pointing right out the door. I can see a scenario where fingers of a rushed owner hit the trigger of the rearward handgun in an attemot to grab a firearm.



    Not something I would recommend!

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    Quote Originally Posted by literaltrance View Post
    Yea, I've been able to do this, but there's absolutely no room for anything else. Plus, the firearm in back is pointing right out the door. I can see a scenario where fingers of a rushed owner hit the trigger of the rearward handgun in an attemot to grab a firearm.



    Not something I would recommend!
    Actually, my HK has the muzzle pointing towards the left side of the safe and the Beretta is laying on it's left side pointing back. I don't think it would work with a gun much longer than the HK though. It's a pretty tight fit in the back of the safe as you said earlier. I agree with you though on not wanting the scenario you described.

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    Maybe you want to buy a chest or desk with lockable drawers. This is furniture, of course, but you can hold a lot more guns, as well as other items. For example, if you keep your guns in the bedroom, you can have one locked drawer where you keep several guns, and another drawer where you keep socks and underwear, and so on. If you keep you guns in the office, you might have a locked drawer for the guns in your desk, next to another drawer that contains office supplies. You might even keep ammunition in an adjacent drawer for easy access.

    I keep my guns and ammunition together in an unlocked drawer. Then again, I live alone, so this is not a problem.

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